On 2025-05-07 17:45:51 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 07.05.25 um 15:28 schrieb Vincent Lefevre:
> > On 2025-05-07 12:37:35 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> > > * Vincent Lefevre <vinc...@vinc17.net> [250507 11:06]:
> > > > I can see in journalctl output:
> > > > 
> > > > May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]: SysV service 
> > > > '/etc/init.d/dictd' lacks a native systemd unit file, automatically 
> > > > generating a unit file for compatibility.
> > > > May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]: Please update 
> > > > package to include a native systemd unit file.
> > > > May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]: ! This 
> > > > compatibility logic is deprecated, expect removal soon. !
> > > > May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]: SysV service 
> > > > '/etc/init.d/shellinabox' lacks a native systemd unit file, 
> > > > automatically generating a unit file for compatibility.
> > > > May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]: Please update 
> > > > package to include a native systemd unit file.
> > > > May 07 10:25:13 qaa systemd-sysv-generator[1476564]: ! This 
> > > > compatibility logic is deprecated, expect removal soon. !
> > > > 
> > > > and the corresponding bugs 1039171 and 1039367 say: "This
> > > > is in the process of being deprecated and will be removed
> > > > by the time Trixie ships, so the remaining packages that
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > ship init scripts without systemd units will stop working."
> > > > 
> > > > What's the status of such packages?
> > > 
> > > They have open bugs that need fixing.
> > > 
> > > For example:
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039171
> > 
> > Yes, but then, shouldn't the severity be raised (as without
> > a fix, they will no longer work in Trixie)?
> 
> Trixie still ships the sysv-generator and we are pretty much in freeze right
> now.
> 
> So while I can't speak for Luca, I wouldn't expect that the sysv-generator
> is going to be removed at this point in the release cycle or that there are
> plans to do so.
> 
> I read the bug report like this: By the time Trixie ships and once Forky
> opens up for development, the sysv-generator is going to be removed. I.e. it
> will be a change affecting Forky, not Trixie.
> Which leaves us 2 years to fix the remaining stragglers.

OK, this wasn't clear and this was why I asked for the status of such
package. I understood Chris's message as such bugs need fixing for
Trixie. IMHO, "and will be removed after Trixie" would have been
clearer if this is the intent.

Then, I think that the message "SysV service [...] This compatibility
logic is deprecated, expect removal soon." in the logs is unnecessary
for Trixie.

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