Hi Sean,

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 05:39:06PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Just to note that the most recent release of Policy sort-of defines
> ownership of this, though it is not as explicit as the TC decision:
>
>     Packages must not install files to paths whose first component is a
>     name directly under the file system root and which is a symbolic
>     link to a directory of the same name under "/usr".  ...  The
>     base-files package is an exception, for it installs aliasing
>     symbolic links from "/bin" to "/usr/bin", "/lib" to "/usr/lib", et
>     cetera.

Thanks for highlighting the additional context. A significant angle here 
is what it means to "install". systemd does not presently install those 
symlinks at package installation time, so it may be argued that it does 
in fact not violate the updated policy in this regard.

Even after the requested change has been effected, systemd will continue 
to create the aliasing symlinks when missing. This kinda is intended as 
a mechanism supporting hermetic-/usr. Longer term, it shall become 
possible to install Debian in such a way that the entire installation 
lives below /usr (though it will not be possible to upgrade such an 
installation due to the lack of /var/lib/dpkg in the initial 
implementation). Then systemd may assemble a system from the 
Discoverable Partitions Specification 
(https://uapi-group.org/specifications/specs/discoverable_partitions_specification/).
 
It may locate a /usr filesystem and an empty root partition and 
initially populate the latter. That population step includes creating 
aliasing symlinks such as /bin -> usr/bin. You may argue that this 
constitutes an "installation" and thus violates policy.

Can you clarify how you understand policy here?

I read it as systemd is not performing an installation here and 
therefore does not violate the present policy. If your reading is 
different, we should likely clarify policy on this aspect.

Helmut

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