On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 09:06:53AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> pardon me but I do not see the GCC mass bug filing being discussed on
> this list before it was started.
> 
> Give the scale if build failure (hundreds of failures for the Debian Med
> packaging team for instance), I want to question if the MBF is
> premature.  What other information do we get apart from "most upstreams
> are not ready" ?
> 
> Again, given the scale, Debian can not expect that the package
> maintainers are going to contact each upstream and send a patch.  We are
> not paid for that.
> 
> On the other hand, we also rely on "the ecosystem" to do the work by
> themselves so that the packages eventually start to build fine with GCC
> 15 them after we upgrade them to newer upstream versions.  But who will
> close the hundreds of bugs?  I mean, query the BTS, get a bug number,
> paste it in a changelog, etc, just to convey information about a change
> that did not happen in Debian ?  We are not paid for that.
> 
> If we want to have stats and know what is the percentage of our pakcages
> that adopted GCC 15 compatibility at a given point of time, mass
> rebuilds are enough.  Salsa CI also comes to the mind.  But before we
> reach the point that we start to track release blockers, I question if
> mass bug filings are a tool that makes the best use of our volunteer
> time?

I don't understand the reason for alarm, given that:

1) the bugs were not filed as release-critical, so it has no impact on
   the release state of your package.

2) The bugs reports explicitly mention that the bugs are not targeted at
   trixie.

I don't think that "OMG my packages have bugs and I need to fix them all
NOW" is a useful attitude, and nobody in their right mind should expect
this of any maintainer. Take it easy.

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