Quoting Sirius (2024-09-22 17:22:21) > On fre, 2024/09/20 at 13:12:36 +0200, Lukas Märdian wrote: > [snip] > > # Proposal > > My proposal is to enable a hybrid network stack, using systemd-networkd (on > > server/cloud/container/embedded systems) and NetworkManager (on > > desktop/laptop > > systems) unified through a common layer of Netplan configuration on top, to > > avoid fragmentation. This utilizes 3 tools that are under active upstream > > development and are already used as defaults in certain variants of Debian > > today. Furthermore, it allows people to control this stack on the native > > systemd-networkd/NetworkManager layer directly, while at the same time > > providing a way to describe network configuration that is common across > > Debian. > > > > I've repeated the reasons why I think a hybrid stack using Netplan is a > > feasible solution many times in previous threads, therefore I'd like to > > refer > > to a list of frequently asked questions, instead of spreading more reasons > > across more replies: https://wiki.debian.org/Netplan/FAQ > > If at all possible, permit it to also run without systemd and/or > Network-Manager in the mix, for use-cases where all the bells and whistles > (and complications, and deep integration into things it does not need to > integrate into, nor necessarily should integrate into, like SSH server) > is not required. > > To have Netplan as an option (which should be the case for systemd and > Network-Manager as well, options) seems very sensible IMHO.
Netplan seems like *different* bells and whistles, rather than none. If you want no belss or whistles, then install neither of ifupdown, network-manager nor systemd-networkd, and operate your network using ip and (unless you also consider that a too large bell) iwd. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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