Hi Helmut, On Wed, 2024-02-28 at 07:41 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: > I see that you are working on merging /bin and /sbin, for instance > via > brltty bug #1064785. Again Fedora is pioneering this matter and their > documentation is at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bin_and_sbin.
This summary is wrong. Other Linux distributions like Arch Linux have done that over 10 years ago. So I wouldn't call Fedora pioneering anything here (same as before with merged-/usr which many people also claim Fedora or others invented). > Apart from the implementation side, this is a more user visible > change. > As you complete programs in a user shell, more programs become > available. I totally agree: we should aim at moving all service binaries such as daemons which are not directly invoked by users out of PATH to /usr/lib{,exec} or similar to make shell completion more helpful. > Β This can be good, but it can also be seen as a pollution of > your shell completion. I note that Fedora seems to have added /sbin > to > the user $PATH by default, which is not what Debian has done. I do > not > think we have consensus on this and would raise an objection of my > own. /sbin not in PATH by default makes many more veteran users unhappy. Especially as even su (not `su -`) no longer does that (an incompatible change in one of the last Debian releases). Ansgar