Hi Helmut,

On Wed, 2024-02-28 at 07:41 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> I see that you are working on merging /bin and /sbin, for instance
> via
> brltty bug #1064785. Again Fedora is pioneering this matter and their
> documentation is at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bin_and_sbin.

This summary is wrong. Other Linux distributions like Arch Linux have
done that over 10 years ago.

So I wouldn't call Fedora pioneering anything here (same as before with
merged-/usr which many people also claim Fedora or others invented).

> Apart from the implementation side, this is a more user visible
> change.
> As you complete programs in a user shell, more programs become
> available.

I totally agree: we should aim at moving all service binaries such as
daemons which are not directly invoked by users out of PATH to
/usr/lib{,exec} or similar to make shell completion more helpful.

> Β This can be good, but it can also be seen as a pollution of
> your shell completion. I note that Fedora seems to have added /sbin
> to
> the user $PATH by default, which is not what Debian has done. I do
> not
> think we have consensus on this and would raise an objection of my
> own.

/sbin not in PATH by default makes many more veteran users unhappy.
Especially as even su (not `su -`) no longer does that (an incompatible
change in one of the last Debian releases).

Ansgar


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