On 2021-08-22 Guillem Jover <guil...@debian.org> wrote: [...] > The huge majority of files under /lib* (which is the actual bulk of them) > should require no symlink farms. Many of the ones under /bin and /sbin > (we are talking about around 240 packages here) might be switchable w/o > compat symlinks after careful consideration (or not…), many of the ones > that require symlinks would need these just for a period of time, and > only a handful would remain (the ones that are part of standard > interfaces, which I'd expect would be mostly shells?). I think the amount > of symlinks currently provided by f.ex. lvm2 and e2fsprogs combined would > amount to more symlinks than what we would eventually end up with TBH. [...] > I've also tried to stop replying to all misconceptions, inaccuracies > and plain wrong stuff on this thread (f.ex. people vocal in this thread > apparently do not exactly seem to know how upgrades or our package > manager works in Debian?), first to avoid dominating it with replies > (like some kind of deranged person, where I think I've probably already > surpassed my quota), and because it just all seems like a monumental > waste of time, energy and motivation. Which I'd rather spend elsewhere.
Hello Guillem, Afaict we have still no idea on how to move on. 1 I think you agree that there is a significant number of usrmerged Debian installations out there. It does not really matter whether there are 7% or 40%. They exist and should (keep) working. 2 As you have stated there are known issues with dpkg and usrmerged systems. Some of them are are triggered by moving files from / to /usr. Starting from here it is hard to see a way forward. Is it a realistic option to require something like ----- dpkg --purge usrmerge dpkg-fsys-usrunmess ----- pre dist-upgrade to bookworm to get back all systems to a sane (from dpkg POV) state and start fresh? Is this robust (except for crash as stated in the manpage), or would you consider it beta-quality? TIA, cu Andreas -- `What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other friends are so grateful to you.' `I sew his ears on from time to time, sure'