Quoting Paul Wise (2021-08-16 05:06:05) > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 2:22 AM Antonio Russo wrote: > > > "Can one advertise non-free services in a Debian package? > > Is doing so a violation of some Debian policy? > > There is no specific rule against this, but I feel that culturally > Debian generally doesn't like this. > > > The details are filed against firefox[-esr], #992208 [1] (which was > > summarily closed without very much discussion). The non-free > > services in question are Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, and > > Twitter. > > I'd like to see those removed too, but ... > > I expect removing these might violate the Firefox trademark license, > which would mean we would have to go back to the Iceweasel branding.
Yes a brand is involved, but I don't think it hinders what is requested here: PureOS distributed for a time¹ the Mozilla-based web browser under the Firefox brand², and explicitly asked and received confirmation from Mozilla that the kinds of changes done to the Mozilla codebase did _not_ violate the terms of brand use. The changes done involved removal of hidden system addons, change of search engine, and reduced tracking. All changes are here (topmost ~23 commits): https://source.puri.sm/pureos/packages/firefox-esr/-/commits/pureos/esr60/master/ I tried upstream one of those patches to Debian, but it has lingered since October 2018 in the Debian BTS with no comment from the package maintainer: https://bugs.debian.org/884600 What I think is the real issue here is not the Mozilla brand, but instead that the Mozilla codebase is quite big and the maintainer has chosen to maintain as few Debian-specific pathes as possible. I therefore recommend that we shift from "we either accept all Mozilla design choices or we take the burden of a confusing rebranding" to "how minimally and easily maintainable patches are possible to compose and can we convince our maintainer to apply them". - Jonas ¹ PureOS has since then shifted to use GNOME Web a.k.a. Epiphany as its default web browser, and nowadays distribute Debian-packaged Firefox-ESR unaltered. ² Prior to that, PureOS distributed a rebranded Mozilla-based browser, but that's irrelevant for the point made here. -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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