Den tis 6 apr. 2021 kl 20:15 skrev Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org>:

> Transphobia by definition is not civilized and the rules of civilized
> discourse do not apply when dealing with individuals who are external to
> your civilization.


That to me seems like an absolutely extraordinary proposition. The epitome
of civilization is to apply the rules of civility also to persons that you
disagree with. That's the purpose of civilization. We don't need much such
rules to interact with persons that we agree with. Redefining some groups
of people as being outside our own civilization and therefore that our
rules of civilization don't apply to interactions with them has been done
many times in the dark history of humankind. It seems to often end with
various forms of oppression, like colonization, slavery, or genocide.

More close at hand, if the other person, in their mind, thinks that "trans
is by definition not civilized" (which is an opinion I would disagree with,
just to be clear), then this argument gives them free reign to not behave
in a civilized way towards that group.


 /Oskar

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