The Wanderer writes: > However, as it remains the case that they are shipped in the same > package as /bin/systemd, and as I gather (mostly from this thread, I > think) that some of the ways they are expected to be invoked probably > rely on having systemd-the-daemon running
They don't rely on the `/bin/systemd` binary at all, and I'm fairly certain that this was mentioned in the thread (and previous) and not the opposite. There was something about dh_installsystemd currently only running systemd-tmpfiles in maintainer scripts if systemd run, but that can be changed should Debian choose to use tmpfiles for more generic purposes. > this does not entirely > obviate my concerns related to needing to have systemd-the-package's > daemons present in order to gain access to these facilities. I'm happy to have helped overcome these concerns. Ansgar
