On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 05:19:23PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > The things you have to remember before doing an upload are insane. > Having humans remember all this crap is not a reasonable expectation. I > think our upload process is a bit like classical debhelper: You remember > to do all the things. We've seen the argument that the dh sequencer > sheds light on the unusual aspects of a package. I argue that this > should apply to QA as well. People shouldn't have to remember all the > QA. QA should just work and QA should tell people about the (unusual) > failures.
agreed. > Now one can turn this argument upside down. One can say: unstable is the > QA area. Britney prevents testing migration on autopkgtest/piuparts/ > missing binaries. In that case, we should simply stop filing such things > in the BTS and stop doing manual QA on unstable. It should be ok to > break unstable. But this is not going to work with transitions. Thus I > still think we're doing it wrong and unstable isn't the place to do the > QA we expect from everyone. have uploads go to unstable-proposed and then, after basic automatic QA checks, go to unstable? (and then testing as usual today...) -- tschau, Holger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org PGP fingerprint: B8BF 5413 7B09 D35C F026 FE9D 091A B856 069A AA1C
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