Hi,
<https://about.me/wer464544?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api> alexander lebedev about.me/wer464544 <https://about.me/wer464544?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api> 2017-04-21 17:39 GMT+03:00 <debian-devel-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org>: > Content-Type: text/plain > > debian-devel-digest Digest Volume 2017 : > Issue 218 > > Today's Topics: > Re: Bug#860368: installer: create ne [ Ritesh Raj Sarraf < > r...@debian.org> ] > 132 packages with several =?utf-8?Q? [ Holger Levsen > <hol...@layer-acht.or ] > Bug#860608: Info received (132 packa [ ow...@bugs.debian.org (Debian > Bug T ] > =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_132_packages_with_seve [ Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org> > ] > Re: 132 packages with several =?utf- [ Holger Levsen > <hol...@layer-acht.or ] > =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_132_packages_with_seve [ Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org> > ] > Re: 132 packages with several =?utf- [ Lucas Nussbaum <lu...@debian.org> > ] > Re: Debian Hurd installer fixed sinc [ Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > <j.deboyn ] > VMware contact list [ dolores....@managementdata.biz ] > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 16:35:13 +0530 > From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <r...@debian.org> > To: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Bug#860368: installer: create network bridges by default? > Message-ID: <1492772713.7514.1.ca...@debian.org> > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=- > CwdKYFUPx6b0jXGW9bD3" > > --=-CwdKYFUPx6b0jXGW9bD3 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, 2017-04-20 at 07:48 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > I used to have a similar setup but eventually migrated to a systemd > > > based setup with systemd-networkd. With s-networkd, I have an > > > independent bridge, which serves KVM/Libvirt, User Mode Linux and > > > systemd-nspawn. > > >=20 > >=20 > > Could you give an example of how that is configured and what you need > > in /etc/network/interfaces?=C2=A0 At some point I will also document how > > I've done this with the Open vSwitch packages on both server and > > desktop virtualization. > >=20 > > Mine is very basic. As you noticed, I had (and have) a host side bridge, to > which I bind all my virtual machines. > > rrs@learner:~$ cat /etc/systemd/network/localBridge.network=C2=A0 > [Match] > Name=3Dsysbr0 > > [Network] > DHCPServer=3Dyes > IPForward=3Dyes > IPMasquerade=3Dyes > Address=3D172.16.20.1 > LLMNR=3Dyes > MulticastDNS=3Dyes > DNS=3D172.16.20.1 > > [DHCPServer] > PoolOffset=3D20 > 2017-04-21 / 16:30:02 =E2=99=92=E2=99=92=E2=99=92=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=98=BA=C2= > =A0=C2=A0 > rrs@learner:~$ cat /etc/systemd/network/localBridge.netdev=C2=A0 > [NetDev] > Name=3Dsysbr0 > Kind=3Dbridge > > 2017-04-21 / 16:30:09 =E2=99=92=E2=99=92=E2=99=92=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=98=BA=C2= > =A0=C2=A0 > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > Another thing that comes to mind is network-manager: > >=20 > > - for those who think a pre-configured bridge would make life > > difficult, far worse has been said about network-manager but it is > > still installed by default > >=20 > > - does network-manager have a way to help people setup a bridge > > suitable for KVM/libvirt when doing virtualization on a desktop level? > > My setup has network-manager, which remains independent of the host bridge > managed by systemd-networkd. NM is used for the Host's networking needs to > external interfaces, which is mostly wifi. > > I don't think I ever tried setting up a bridge through network-manager. > But= > NM > does show my systemd-networkd based bridge in its listing. > > --=20 > Given the large number of mailing lists I follow, I request you to CC > me in replies for quicker response > --=-CwdKYFUPx6b0jXGW9bD3 > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" > Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEQCVDstmIVAB/Yn02pjpYo/LhdWkFAlj552oACgkQpjpYo/Lh > dWkzVRAApoRdN6n+dRAEqchujkIeaGRg+sZE99tEXrqYevfsfafiGegGT8eV24wR > IhSBIHORM5/0QEsiVwUIEjiMDhoqT+AmBKIRUsKhhgVpGtnFyxglPUPuLykmdtDp > GikvgmLcbvY0qg0WgrZbezuJiXj/w9Y4nF7V6sQVRCBGlHiu5a8B7KW95sWoLSs/ > 8UkdNIQ6l6Cx6L1Lo6j8GEWqbcLByU1o+xj08ivEVmoYe0yRqb5VZDJO6EPSVsoO > vYsE8X0OsjwA1KDd4fwjY0q9PJgjVxHxvsXxAWQnkgoTUUf8vzTxCBx8C6IRjlZH > EbOwizNNgrACPkpB4/j1DcisYfgSLj6SvBQbY8/Px9MHJUe+PbxkVK4ZmdVc2Bz2 > b0KM0xfCTULHAoQJI3IMJcdLD9qofE/tN6vcoesVtasxemxMnYrH6OIiZsvazT8t > J8VI/C4aGdf27+KCwb79aGiUxurBLbb3lD+fS+ThQ0lLtRr2Gx8zElOj7yTQqOtK > ySfXqW/w02yCnFJwARZysr/DsjQmGKcfz5QgK2nvMgpbUeNG51qj5Jmct+64RncF > MxykvYZw63R0cwPamRLIAWA5uoIuO4kPQqTGIh0h5TiBBvqLbMEIsuyIBLFdzUDk > gUPH3btTCYAdT1ikH4ujWoqUrSidPZhWpEOBJTPqDNI33yOmTdM= > =qHlY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --=-CwdKYFUPx6b0jXGW9bD3-- > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:29:30 +0000 > From: Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> > To: Lucas Nussbaum <lu...@debian.org>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Cc: Niels Thykier <ni...@thykier.net>, 860...@bugs.debian.org, > Michael Stapelberg <stapelb...@debian.org>, > Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hud...@canonical.com>, > debian-rele...@lists.debian.org > Subject: 132 packages with several =?utf-8?Q?source?= > =?utf-8?Q?s_for_stretch_in_the_archive=E2=80=A6_=28Re=3A_Bug#860608=3A_?= > =?utf-8?Q?=5Bpkg-golang-devel=5D_Bug#860608=3A_golang=3A_ > FTBFS=3A_Go_vers?= > =?utf-8?Q?ion?= is "go1.6.1", ignoring -next > /<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt) > Message-ID: <20170421112930.ga26...@layer-acht.org> > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" > Content-Disposition: inline > > --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00:20PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > FYI, that's the number of additional copies of source packages in > > stretch, per source package: > >=20 > > udd=3D> select source, count(*) from sources where release=3D'stretch' > and > > component=3D'main' and extra_source_only group by source order by count > > desc; > [...] > > (132 rows) > > that's quite astounding (to me) and IMHO also quite bad=E2=80=A6 can we do > = > something > to fix this for Buster at least? > > reply-to: set to debian-devel@=E2=80=A6 > > > --=20 > cheers, > Holger > > --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" > Content-Description: Digital signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQIVAwUBWPntGgkauFYGmqocAQoqjBAAlZNtqwdq+0GyXFrfOF8ylA+jhohNrv3Q > tAXLEh7/5eOEovDqfhv43mn5VFL+p2RHNsJhi/DjhRj5VAd9p38SjZQYwZSMovn4 > HXmcoZGmuT7YLCRk21XJfz7E5g5xfj7XmiZIt4kubRkIMwywmmw7Coq99z3/dkyB > +3r7zdrWq9QqZIgx36Bm6H8hrKvTXaltSpZ4Fh6+TzU2wisxPDc8HdEGoGEEG5ot > v1NBB+4rzwk1TJbrIEH8PDkd/pjKowr0GyT/eUzZhDdf6tWj4N3lNDAySQbSM9Kq > Fmxj1ULOgtpR4BVVntCw2sAoEzkixRrR1g8tOCGjz07CTi+DGo/WH4Ja/k6win69 > XLG0DaMx1L/7VQeYFifttjlWodplDp+XwsylDQsCiEw7yOmHiY+d1vLmmSW+7REZ > A2OQM8SozFsZQk9F0fnnBAx1aQbO/rmF/v4y3YiUXrsSjvlhP9+07f+Ozj9Z4a7C > P7s4SWjigNppt8HWB/Vs7bidbMaAnn9RbxJ8eVv2TS6rEt8R7oYaaL6WH7wTdwDE > kAhV3XEfr8ixeMcqLmQrc6j3/UB9EegpjfSrEDg4kaSyLnFuXTSov0e+pTIBAaog > PPNebPNuBHQBZ5h6qyQEYgXT6a+MEUu1dHdik8jykvmCgXFxf5/E+XDZBphvv18Y > 6HjRWSis7HM= > =xq2M > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:33:02 +0000 > From: ow...@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking System) > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Bug#860608: Info received (132 packages with several sources for > stretch in the =?UTF-8?Q?archive=E2=80=A6?= (Re: Bug#860608: > [pkg-golang-devel] Bug#860608: golang: FTBFS: Go version is "go1.6.1", > ignoring -next /<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt)) > Message-ID: <handler.860608.b860608.14927741774256.acki...@bugs.debian.org > > > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding > this Bug report. > > This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message > has been received. > > Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other > interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course. > > Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): > Go Compiler Team <pkg-golang-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org> > > If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please > send it to 860...@bugs.debian.org. > > Please do not send mail to ow...@bugs.debian.org unless you wish > to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. > > --=20 > 860608: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D860608 > Debian Bug Tracking System > Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:44:40 +0200 > From: Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_132_packages_with_several_sources_for_ > stretch_in_the_?= > =?UTF-8?Q?archive=e2=80=a6_=28Re:_Bug#860608:_[pkg-golang- > devel]_Bug#860608?= > =?UTF-8?Q?:_golang:_FTBFS:_Go_version_is_=22go1.6.1=22=2c_ > ignoring_-next_/<?= > =?UTF-8?Q?<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt=29?= > Message-ID: <ac453780-1d62-060d-d05a-52f3f9b35...@debian.org> > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; > boundary="Qx0mNK6xpqGDOukgqXN9TTJxH6gG6RkMu" > > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) > --Qx0mNK6xpqGDOukgqXN9TTJxH6gG6RkMu > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SiaxSkdS6g1ofDa0hC4G7LA3kbGUN6 > R01"; > protected-headers="v1" > From: Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Message-ID: <ac453780-1d62-060d-d05a-52f3f9b35...@debian.org> > Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_132_packages_with_several_sources_for_ > stretch_in_the_?= > =?UTF-8?Q?archive=e2=80=a6_=28Re:_Bug#860608:_[pkg-golang- > devel]_Bug#860608?= > =?UTF-8?Q?:_golang:_FTBFS:_Go_version_is_=22go1.6.1=22=2c_ > ignoring_-next_/<?= > =?UTF-8?Q?<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt=29?= > References: <20170419062130.qhhk3dgdumkrd...@xanadu.blop.info> > <cannvg6kr70umv-mygt0vlvm5pwmg8sm59evobufd-fc3uj3...@mail.gmail.com> > <20170419085520.wh4kh4hb5s5d7...@xanadu.blop.info> > <CAJ8wqtejrtkCfO-a69OT5OuhbAjs=tqpbuof+531fqjwiyv...@mail.gmail.com> > <CANnVG6nE4oK2X+iQ1hwz_Ez=dhn+3h9ogazky00aoeya87w...@mail.gmail.com> > <a2007d58-fddb-aeb1-43bc-d87ad6971...@thykier.net> > <CANnVG6mJBjV-7NheH8B_UY8qUAvB=sac8g925vmv9vyjc0b...@mail.gmail.com> > <6d4da69d-8ca6-febf-9d52-a48f27987...@thykier.net> > <20170421110020.j4aobds3ylc5n...@xanadu.blop.info> > <20170421112930.ga26...@layer-acht.org> > In-Reply-To: <20170421112930.ga26...@layer-acht.org> > > --SiaxSkdS6g1ofDa0hC4G7LA3kbGUN6R01 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, > > On 21-04-17 13:29, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00:20PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >> FYI, that's the number of additional copies of source packages in > >> stretch, per source package: > >> > >> udd=3D> select source, count(*) from sources where release=3D'stretch'= > and > >> component=3D'main' and extra_source_only group by source order by coun= > t > >> desc; > > [...] > >> (132 rows) > >=20 > > that's quite astounding (to me) and IMHO also quite bad=E2=80=A6 can we= > do something > > to fix this for Buster at least? > > I don't think this number is bad per-se (assuming this extra_source_only > just meant it has "Build-Using"). The bad thing in my opinion is when > multiple version are kept around for a long time. I use this Build-Using > in multiple of my package, exactly to be able for this kind of analysis > (and in the end I hope globally fixing per release with (binNMU) > rebuilding). > > Paul > > > --SiaxSkdS6g1ofDa0hC4G7LA3kbGUN6R01-- > > --Qx0mNK6xpqGDOukgqXN9TTJxH6gG6RkMu > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" > Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEWLZtSHNr6TsFLeZynFyZ6wW9dQoFAlj58LUACgkQnFyZ6wW9 > dQo4iwf+KcKOCkxRBB/61zyNWptrw6G041oDtc9JENoD8BcVClbuNTzpwUg7fNYq > aWdESIkubPpeEs06RZeFPpUHPMPciDqiGE8EncTLSnfuizWWj9lQybOFABkjSYae > jgasYB7AKw8cBmqOjC1HBipAllaipQu6EBpVyHChPDgi25TXb72RbLyzl+Q9/MWi > dtSuLL3zUTSYSUFII2eyX24I2jQrrHuK73L3K5L5FD+a+HE2JCmtc5Y5cyUsaz0D > fwSQqB8bm5A48gzvV8RG2wUaECAb5YI0FsWyAhfeuXNGggiCWJOa9W5SU5fAku44 > /ZeR2aCT7cwKb8gC3+u5zWdTWVbMMw== > =j7tu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --Qx0mNK6xpqGDOukgqXN9TTJxH6gG6RkMu-- > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:10:32 +0000 > From: Holger Levsen <hol...@layer-acht.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: 132 packages with several =?utf-8?Q?so?= > =?utf-8?Q?urces_for_stretch_in_the_archive=E2=80=A6_=28Re=3A_Bug#860608?= > =?utf-8?Q?=3A_=5Bpkg-golang-devel=5D_Bug#860608=3A_golang= > 3A_FTBFS=3A_Go_?= > =?utf-8?Q?versio?= =?utf-8?Q?n?= is "go1.6.1", ignoring -next > /<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt) > Message-ID: <20170421121032.ga29...@layer-acht.org> > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" > Content-Disposition: inline > > --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:44:40PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > > I don't think this number is bad per-se (assuming this extra_source_only > > just meant it has "Build-Using"). The bad thing in my opinion is when > > multiple version are kept around for a long time.=20 > > I consider the life time of stretch to be long, you don't? > > Are security updates supposed to be build using the most current source > package in stretch or the one specified in "Build-Using"? > > > --=20 > cheers, > Holger > > --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" > Content-Description: Digital signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQIVAwUBWPn2uAkauFYGmqocAQrIsg/+KAOz9FHn+Jf8FYoMN+VCX/ujB2WBZ79y > 4e8bGx7E7Nb5BejEx4Qd8WOVELWYuyVMgZrWuwqX3U0oLj5axAf+jubMD28/MNeG > vDB06lZ17BvZ7PZsUwb9j0rxt3wmWdOmOgDNF99WDwYHCJT+s6SNDxbAvg1GhnOQ > kY0L2FWPNYDFWdR8cw+N9bLYr9ynMHljBYrfp5Px362V0RuabdMbLsaO+n84V3Ek > Ua59eO13Ohyrqoi1HOqoyBGiPrclGbawIRKcdkBNT+qXRm+HxRXy5VJwvQCy5xGy > GhiE6yYI2sSdbvvMuzfUJsImpc94w3PiYiESUTSMFjcNUDpUEJbWARLyhdDxOpMZ > PIUdtm2z6JDETnt2uGGr/ETFdw52QGBq9SMuhLdU3T5q264Gaw0PF/FD+CwAcgIc > Mbut5UUdT/stBmyo5+BwRH/SPktF3LM9NrHNHAki5YEe00qY0pS0l1PQYvU8psXI > cUbtI1MfUAQD5whSZqytLs5Y7gGO21S7XTmqLBoymR8fKLN6wmz8HbB9LuS9zaGR > OmhsRzftHSi0vXr2GlDB8CEAY4EEOIovnJOGqUU9wpmu3hsQLLOz5AehmArEcYvg > RNismoNJdRwxBwsdkg85Ue7YSDs7jijRFH4phVaCKteNFhimgBXYSQcd3NJWwGFG > 0Df4tKtG54Y= > =NMa5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:15:20 +0200 > From: Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_132_packages_with_several_sources_for_ > stretch_in_the_?= > =?UTF-8?Q?archive=e2=80=a6_=28Re:_Bug#860608:_[pkg-golang- > devel]_Bug#860608?= > =?UTF-8?Q?:_golang:_FTBFS:_Go_version_is_=22go1.6.1=22=2c_ > ignoring_-next_/<?= > =?UTF-8?Q?<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt=29?= > Message-ID: <4128d881-d5d5-32fd-710c-1eb7a4049...@debian.org> > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; > boundary="gdLALcIxMDPVn6PXSfRkoHGu412qr2277" > > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) > --gdLALcIxMDPVn6PXSfRkoHGu412qr2277 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ABTClpCpbIqDDqMv0uvJMKpOchpLpl > DnK"; > protected-headers="v1" > From: Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Message-ID: <4128d881-d5d5-32fd-710c-1eb7a4049...@debian.org> > Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_132_packages_with_several_sources_for_ > stretch_in_the_?= > =?UTF-8?Q?archive=e2=80=a6_=28Re:_Bug#860608:_[pkg-golang- > devel]_Bug#860608?= > =?UTF-8?Q?:_golang:_FTBFS:_Go_version_is_=22go1.6.1=22=2c_ > ignoring_-next_/<?= > =?UTF-8?Q?<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt=29?= > References: <CANnVG6kr70UmV-mYgt0vLvm5PwMg8Sm59evObuFD- > fc3uj3...@mail.gmail.com> > <20170419085520.wh4kh4hb5s5d7...@xanadu.blop.info> > <CAJ8wqtejrtkCfO-a69OT5OuhbAjs=tqpbuof+531fqjwiyv...@mail.gmail.com> > <CANnVG6nE4oK2X+iQ1hwz_Ez=dhn+3h9ogazky00aoeya87w...@mail.gmail.com> > <a2007d58-fddb-aeb1-43bc-d87ad6971...@thykier.net> > <CANnVG6mJBjV-7NheH8B_UY8qUAvB=sac8g925vmv9vyjc0b...@mail.gmail.com> > <6d4da69d-8ca6-febf-9d52-a48f27987...@thykier.net> > <20170421110020.j4aobds3ylc5n...@xanadu.blop.info> > <20170421112930.ga26...@layer-acht.org> > <ac453780-1d62-060d-d05a-52f3f9b35...@debian.org> > <20170421121032.ga29...@layer-acht.org> > In-Reply-To: <20170421121032.ga29...@layer-acht.org> > > --ABTClpCpbIqDDqMv0uvJMKpOchpLplDnK > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, > > On 21-04-17 14:10, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:44:40PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > >> I don't think this number is bad per-se (assuming this extra_source_on= > ly > >> just meant it has "Build-Using"). The bad thing in my opinion is when > >> multiple version are kept around for a long time.=20 > >=20 > > I consider the life time of stretch to be long, you don't? > > Oh, sure, but what I meant is during preparation of a release. If during > the freeze rebuilds are done, you only have the version that you ship > anyways. > > > Are security updates supposed to be build using the most current source= > > > package in stretch or the one specified in "Build-Using"? > > The version in Build-Using is added during building. So this field is > updated during security builds to the latest version. The Build-Depends > field determines (as always) which packages (potentially with version) > to use for building. Nothing new here. > > Paul > > > --ABTClpCpbIqDDqMv0uvJMKpOchpLplDnK-- > > --gdLALcIxMDPVn6PXSfRkoHGu412qr2277 > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" > Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEWLZtSHNr6TsFLeZynFyZ6wW9dQoFAlj599kACgkQnFyZ6wW9 > dQrJcQgAxaENOVWEeN3vzWK7c8PsNOppExtDcSV9yGD0Cdof+l1nk/TnoUcsx4xf > nEaB0WUBDx/bOl7VpxvI4beSK1GBBaPD/80j91CPXEkf4eYZCpVKtxaK7lyf+ozG > AoRM+a6n3+ejeNZALRloW+zySjL9UaBm/3R4YUCk5pa1rcEKcq8tNkUfDe9HlbO6 > VlAffZJr4/LPvCm/GgZNs25u9GUBoiNCeOBR6PovsO3QNkDLKKxViWVj8t8Idmtk > Sel416ieF7aEnRiHF2koKuzFG7WiuuFIwxQp11uhCaxLBSakv0WqlutIDj7HSR3N > ytnFWw1Sn40lBBS8ZzhVz9z86uWCHw== > =x7TF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --gdLALcIxMDPVn6PXSfRkoHGu412qr2277-- > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:19:26 +0200 > From: Lucas Nussbaum <lu...@debian.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: 132 packages with several =?utf-8?Q?so?= > =?utf-8?Q?urces_for_stretch_in_the_archive=E2=80=A6_=28Re=3A_Bug#860608?= > =?utf-8?Q?=3A_=5Bpkg-golang-devel=5D_Bug#860608=3A_golang= > 3A_FTBFS=3A_Go_?= > =?utf-8?Q?versio?= =?utf-8?Q?n?= is "go1.6.1", ignoring -next > /<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/api/next.txt) > Message-ID: <20170421121926.hw4lfiwf3nbrz...@xanadu.blop.info> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > On 21/04/17 at 14:15 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 21-04-17 14:10, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:44:40PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > > >> I don't think this number is bad per-se (assuming this > extra_source_only > > >> just meant it has "Build-Using"). The bad thing in my opinion is when > > >> multiple version are kept around for a long time. > > > > > > I consider the life time of stretch to be long, you don't? > > > > Oh, sure, but what I meant is during preparation of a release. If during > > the freeze rebuilds are done, you only have the version that you ship > > anyways. > > > > > Are security updates supposed to be build using the most current source > > > package in stretch or the one specified in "Build-Using"? > > > > The version in Build-Using is added during building. So this field is > > updated during security builds to the latest version. The Build-Depends > > field determines (as always) which packages (potentially with version) > > to use for building. Nothing new here. > > Note that it's "Built-Using", not "Build-Using", so it's really a > statement about the produced binary package, not an alternative way to > specify build-dependencies. > > Lucas > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:14:33 +0100 (BST) > From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com> > To: debian-hurd <debian-h...@lists.debian.org> > Cc: debian-devel <debian-devel@lists.debian.org> > Subject: Re: Debian Hurd installer fixed since 2014? > Message-ID: <502707271.160902.1492780473817.JavaMail.open- > xcha...@oxbe11.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Samuel Thibault: > > > Memory management is being worked on and there have been > > various fixes, yes. > > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: > > > I'll give it another go when I get the time, then. > > As promised, I have given it another go, with your latest DVD image dated > January 2017. The good news is that the installer succeeds, and doesn't > hang > trying to install exim as before. The bad news is that networking fails > quite > badly. > > ssh to 127.0.0.1, where OpenSSH is listening, works repeatedly *until* the > first > time that I attempt to connect to any non-loopback address, whereupon IP > networking stops connecting to anything at all, loopback or no. It also > breaks > shutdown, which just hangs at "Deconfiguring network interfaces". Shutdown > succeeds if I only touch loopback networking. > > Also: Exiting aptitude with "q" "y" does not complete until it is sent a > SIGINT. > The hurd console does not properly draw the screen at startup (resulting > in an > extra "login:" line at the bottom of the screen). The WWW page's > assertion that > there is an inetutils-ping package appears to be false. And the hurd > console > does odd things (that the Mach console does not) with a U.K. keyboard > layout, in > particular with Shift+3 . > > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:51:17 +0000 > From: dolores....@managementdata.biz > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: VMware contact list > Message-ID: <001a113527ca3eecb0054dad8...@google.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113527ca3eec97054dad8de3 > > --001a113527ca3eec97054dad8de3 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > > Hi, > > > > Would you be interested in acquiring VMware contact list for marketing or > email campaign? > > > > We can segment Industry List & Technology Users List by C-level, VP-level, > Director-Level and Manager Level as per your requirements. > > > > We also have alternative Technology such as: Hyper-V, XenServer, Oracle VM, > Red Hat Virtualization, Proxmox VE, vCloud Director, KVM, Xen Project, > Virtuozzo, OpenVZ, Nutanix Acropolis, LXC, UCS Virtual Machine Manager, > Virtkick, Pivot3 vSTAC OS, DataSphere, and many more. > > > > Kindly review and advice or forward this email to the marketing head in > your company who are currently working on some requirements. > > > > Await your response. > > > > Regards > > Dolores Kim > > Data Specialist > > > > To opt-out replay in > subject line. > > > > --001a113527ca3eec97054dad8de3 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <div dir=3D"ltr"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;lin= > e-height:normal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color: > rgb(0,32,96)">Hi,<span= > ></span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><span>=C2=A0</ > span></span= > ></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Would > you be interested in acquiring VMware contact list for marketing or email > campaign?<span></span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><span>=C2=A0</ > span></span= > ></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">We > can segment Industry List & Technology Users List by C-level, VP-level, > Director-Level and Manager Level as per your requirements.<span></span></ > sp= > an></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><span>=C2=A0</ > span></span= > ></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">We > also have alternative Technology such as: Hyper-V, XenServer, Oracle VM, > Re= > d > Hat Virtualization, Proxmox VE, vCloud Director, KVM, Xen Project, > Virtuozz= > o, > OpenVZ, Nutanix Acropolis, LXC, UCS Virtual Machine Manager, Virtkick, > Pivo= > t3 > vSTAC OS, DataSphere,=C2=A0 and many more.<span></span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><span>=C2=A0</ > span></span= > ></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Kindly > review and advice or forward this email to the marketing head in your > compa= > ny > who are currently working on some requirements.<span></span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><span>=C2=A0</ > span></span= > ></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Await > your response.<span></span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><span>=C2=A0</ > span></span= > ></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Regards<span></ > span></spa= > n></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Dolores > Kim</span><span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Data > Specialist<span></span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0. > 0001pt;line-height:normal">= > <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><span>=C2=A0</ > span></span= > ></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;line- > height:106%;color= > :rgb(0,32,96)">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= > C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= > A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= > =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= > C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= > A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= > =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > To opt-out replay in subject line.<span></span></span></p> > > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p></div> > <p> </p><a style=3D'display: block; 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