>>>>> "HL" == Harlan Lieberman-Berg <hlieber...@debian.org> writes:
HL> In fact, letsencrypt was never in jessie either. Both certbot and HL> letsencrypt have only ever been in stable-bpo, stretch, and sid. Ok. That must have been before I was forced to switch my openvz systems from sid to jessie-backports. (The glibc maintainer broke sid, stretch and later on openvz and after it was reported refused to fix it.) But even after I was able to 'apt-get install certbot' on some of my jessie-backports machines, it was later impossible to do so on others. So there was a window where it worked followed by a long spot where it did not. HL> If you're referring to #825619, that was a bug in a dependency, not in HL> certbot, which we worked around by specifying a child version dependency HL> in python-acme. It may have been; in any case it took *weeks* for the bug I saw to get fixed. And it doesn't matter where the bug was, it still made it impossible to apt-get install the certbot package. Which still defines the certbot in jessie-backports experience as (at least historically) unreliable. Anything which takes weeks to fix is unreliable. The points I made at the end of my last note about methods which might avoid such things in the future remain on point. -JimC -- James Cloos <cl...@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6