On 2016-05-08 at 09:09, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sun, 08 May 2016 07:18:40 -0400 The Wanderer > <wande...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > >> On 2016-05-08 at 03:45, Neil Williams wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 8 May 2016 00:51:57 +0200 Pierre Ynard >>> <linkfa...@yahoo.fr> wrote: >> >> Even if running unstable, I would certainly expect that something >> which is known to break certain types of systems this badly would >> be announced at package install time, giving me a chance to cancel >> the install... > > It's unstable - I've been running unstable on my main development > laptop for ten years, most of the time that something has broken my > system, I've had to be the one to report it! Some of those bugs have > caused this level of breakage.
Yes, that's part of the 'bargain' of running unstable. The difference is that, presumably, the fact that the change which led to that breakage would in fact so break things was not known in advance. I certainly do not expect such notification for every breakage which occurs in unstable. I was speaking only about cases where the fact that the breakage would occur was known in advance (which is the case here, because the breakage is an intentional feature removal), and where the breakage itself would be "bad enough" (in this case, essentially total). Off the top of my head, I can't actually think of another case where the breakage was both known in advance and expected to be total. If this case really is that unique, that would seem to be a point in favor of its being exceptional enough to warrant special notification measures. > It's also an issue of workload and whether there is a realistic > likelihood of that breakage. The expectation is that users of > unstable are not running production systems That expectation is perhaps not being properly communicated to the user base, then; as mentioned elsewhere, I have seen people who apparently know what they're doing advocating to people who apparently do not that tracking unstable is preferable to tracking testing. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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