On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:30:49 -0800, Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org>
wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 08:14:07PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:15:08PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
>> > One claim is changed, see below.
>
>> > On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>
>> > > In summary:
>> > > a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be
>> > > kept.
>> > > b) New installs should get systemd-sysv as default init with a debconf
>> > > message about alternative init systems.
>
>> > Since there is no interest in adding a debconf message on new installs,
>> > I wish for a menu entry in the advanced part of the installer to be able
>> > to install a new system with sysvinit-core or upstart!
>
>> That's even more unlikely than to add a debconf message (which would be
>> package-owned). Yes, debian-installer is frozen. This would add new
>> udebs, new strings, new everything. We're actually trying to release.
>
>Debian releases when it's ready.  If large numbers of our users are going to
>have a bad experience with jessie as a result of being switched to systemd,
>then we should take appropriate steps to address that, even if that means
>unfreezing the installer.
>
>I am not saying that making init systems a choice in the installer is the
>right solution here; I don't think that it is.  But I also don't think that
>the release freeze can reasonably be an argument against it.

Amen. With all the technical issues in systemd popping up just now, we
have frozen prematurely.

Greetings
Marc
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