On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:30:49 -0800, Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> wrote: >On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 08:14:07PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:15:08PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: >> > One claim is changed, see below. > >> > On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: >> > > Hello, > >> > > In summary: >> > > a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be >> > > kept. >> > > b) New installs should get systemd-sysv as default init with a debconf >> > > message about alternative init systems. > >> > Since there is no interest in adding a debconf message on new installs, >> > I wish for a menu entry in the advanced part of the installer to be able >> > to install a new system with sysvinit-core or upstart! > >> That's even more unlikely than to add a debconf message (which would be >> package-owned). Yes, debian-installer is frozen. This would add new >> udebs, new strings, new everything. We're actually trying to release. > >Debian releases when it's ready. If large numbers of our users are going to >have a bad experience with jessie as a result of being switched to systemd, >then we should take appropriate steps to address that, even if that means >unfreezing the installer. > >I am not saying that making init systems a choice in the installer is the >right solution here; I don't think that it is. But I also don't think that >the release freeze can reasonably be an argument against it.
Amen. With all the technical issues in systemd popping up just now, we have frozen prematurely. Greetings Marc -- -------------------------------------- !! No courtesy copies, please !! ----- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | http://www.zugschlus.de/ Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 621 72739834 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/e1xupbp-0002gh...@swivel.zugschlus.de