Noel Torres <env...@rolamasao.org> writes: > It is a gut feeling also, and one that has been widely expresed by > others, (with better and worse words) that Debian server admins will not > be pleased with an init system which is bigger and does not use shell > scripts to start system services.
And many of us who actually *are* Debian server administrators have said repeatedly that your gut is wrong, in the innumerable versions of this conversation that have happened over the past two years. This idea that systemd is somehow aimed at desktop environments and is not useful or a good idea for servers is complete nonsense. I say this as someone who barely uses desktops at all and who has been running large-scale server environments professionally for twenty years, and who has had extensive conversations on this topic with professional colleagues in environments ranging from a hundred servers to hundreds of thousands. Obviously, there are some server administrators who disagree with me, just like there are some desktop users who don't like systemd, and some embedded developers who don't like systemd (and others who love it and think it will help their work immensely). The opinions about systemd do not at all break along the lines that you have imagined. Given that, could you please stop trying to divide Debian's users into artificial opposing camps, and then trying to play those camps off against each other? I really don't think that Debian needs yet more attempts at forming in-groups and out-groups and excluding people based on what they use Debian to do. The decision about the default init system to use for Debian was made with an eye to *all* of Debian's users and all of their varying use cases. You are certainly entitled to disagree with that decision on its merits, but if you're going to claim that it was made solely for desktop users while ignoring server administrators or embedded users, directly contradicting the statements of the people who were actually involved in that decision-making process, you're going to need some really good evidence to back up that assertion. Not just a gut feeling. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87zjbd33to....@hope.eyrie.org
