On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 07:46:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Santiago Vila <sanv...@unex.es> wrote: > > * Gnome only works on i386 and amd64, so default to xfce on > other arches. > > Closes: #765839 Thanks, Adam Borowski for testing. > > Gnome only works on i386 and amd64? > > GNOME works on all Linux architectures.
Compiles yes, works not really. > GNOME *without hardware 3D* will probably have big trouble running > anywhere but on i386 and amd64. This means it's useless for most developer and sysadmin work. I for one have only two non-phone computers currently attached to a monitor, yet for example this machine I sit before right now has 23 full-system virtual machines using four different virtualization/emulation methods with a plethora of test setups inside (only 8 Debian...). This count is so low only because I use chroots/vservers for most work... Five other machines (two physical, three vservers) in the room and cellar have GUI installed, reachable via ssh -X or via VNC. I guess this is typical for a person of our kind. And you're trying to tell me that having to use a non-default desktop environment on all these virtual machines is ok? Even those whose very purpose is to test programs on such environments? > So in the real world, it depends on the architectures: > * real-world desktop powerpc hardware comes with hardware 3D and > free drivers I have little clue there, I'm afraid. I remember receiving a bug report (on crawl-tiles which uses opengl) from a powerpc person whose graphics card didn't sound like one of the Big Three, but that's all I know. A description of a newest-and-greatest powerpc/ppc64el beef linked from Slashdot today included on-board graphics -- that's a server-type box. Some input from a person owning a physical powerpc machine could shed some light here. > * real-world ARM hardware comes with hardware 3D and non-free > drivers I have personally tested two distinct boxes with Mali GPU: * Odroid U2 * Omega OAN133 (laptop) The Mali 3D driver is non-free and not packaged in Debian. On U2, I took pre-made packages (hardkernel community), on Omega it's sunxi-mali. I can also try Broadcom on a certain infamous armel/half-armhf machine, but it'll take ages. As for other SoCs, we got quite a few people who work with ARM professionally. Wookey and co, please enlighten us! > * not sure for mips* and s390 s390 doesn't have real display, so all GUI comes in the form of VNC and such. Which works in software. As for mips, I _did_ see it do awesome OpenGL stuff, 1.5 decades ago! I'm afraid I know nothing more recent :/ -- // If you believe in so-called "intellectual property", please immediately // cease using counterfeit alphabets. Instead, contact the nearest temple // of Amon, whose priests will provide you with scribal services for all // your writing needs, for Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory prices. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141021214045.ga31...@angband.pl
