On 10/21/2014 at 10:13 AM, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Josselin Mouette wrote: > >> not possible to split the system cgroups arbitrator from the >> process which starts services and sessions in cgroups. It is not >> possible to ensure the relation of a log to a service if you do not >> have awareness of how the service was launched. Et caetera. > > And surely that didn't work the last 20 years ...
I believe the argument is that it didn't work reliably, or as well as it could have and as they argue that it should. And I can see their point, although I don't know whether I necessarily believe it holds. > Only because the "Wanderer" is a troll, doesn't mean that everything > he says is wrong. I object to being characterized as a troll. I'm not trying to stir things up or incite a furor or the like, nor am I posting to cause a reaction for my own amusement, nor am I saying controversial or hostile or otherwise flamebait-y things regardless of whether or not I actually believe them, or anything along those lines. I've actively refrained from commenting in many systemd-related threads, here and elsewhere, when I felt that I did not have anything relevant or useful to say, and/or when I felt that my contribution would not help anything. It's possible that my contribution won't help anything here either, but I judged that it was at least close enough to be worth the risk. Now, if you wanted to classify me as "posting flamebait" in this specific instance, I'd have much less ground on which to refute that - though doing so was not my goal, and I do think that even some things which are valuable contributions to a discussion can also be classified as flamebait. But "posting flamebait" and "being a troll" are very different things. (Even independent of its being used to refer to me, I don't like to see a useful and specific term being broadened into less-useful generality like that.) -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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