To not be provided with a choice is utterly *horrible*. <from_userspace>
There is init, upstart and sytemd; the linux boot manager (GRUB) is a JOKE; see extlinux - use what the kernel devsuse. Perhaps we should appeal to the BSD community. :wq :q ```:q One can't help but wonder if we've finally got enough attention to be attacked. -- Mark Syminet Internetworking Solutions http://www.syminet.com/ 1-866-664-3151 ext. 8049 GPG Key: https://www.syminet.com/mark On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:30:41PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Hi. > > Well I hope this doesn't turn into some kind of flame war... about > systemd, GNOME or similar. > > > In sid, gnome-settings-daemon depends now on systemd. > > I wouldn't have any issues with that, but at least right now systemd is > for me not yet production ready (it seems to miss proper dm-crypt > integration - or at least all those use cases where dm-crypt makes sense > at all). > > Of course I can install the package but don't have to switch init= to > it, nevertheless it seems that already this alone adds several things > (udev rules, dbus stuff and some things in the maintainer scripts) that > *will* get enabled. > > I've opened #726675, asking the GNOME developers what they think about > this, but the only answer so far is basically "GNOME now depends on > systemd". > I personally think this is a design problem of GNOME upstream and we > have previously seen that GNOME upstream forces their "blessings" upon > their users - anyway... probably not something we can change from Debian > side. > > > So I guess the question is mainly,... what's the policy from Debian side > now with such cases? > And does anyone know whether it causes "hurt" to just install the > package without using it? > > > Thanks, > Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131025011834.GA8262@debian