On 10/23/2013 10:30 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Well I hope this doesn't turn into some kind of flame war... about > systemd, GNOME or similar.
I don't hope either, I'm tired of these. > I wouldn't have any issues with that, but at least right now systemd is > for me not yet production ready (it seems to miss proper dm-crypt > integration - or at least all those use cases where dm-crypt makes sense > at all). > > Of course I can install the package but don't have to switch init= to > it, nevertheless it seems that already this alone adds several things > (udev rules, dbus stuff and some things in the maintainer scripts) that > *will* get enabled. And does this cause any problems actually? Does your system no longer boot properly using sysvinit when systemd is installed? I don't exactly understand the problem so far. > I've opened #726675, asking the GNOME developers what they think about > this, but the only answer so far is basically "GNOME now depends on > systemd". I think you should rather file this to GNOME upstream. We, as Debian, aren't really in the position to change that, are we? > I personally think this is a design problem of GNOME upstream and we > have previously seen that GNOME upstream forces their "blessings" upon > their users - anyway... probably not something we can change from Debian > side. See. Therefore, please report this to bugzilla.gnome.org. > So I guess the question is mainly,... what's the policy from Debian side > now with such cases? Well, Debian is aiming for full systemd integration with Jessie, so there is that. > And does anyone know whether it causes "hurt" to just install the > package without using it? Uh, didn't you indirectly state above that it does? I thought you actually have seen some problems with systemd being installed without using it. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52683a5f.3090...@physik.fu-berlin.de
