It turned out that buxtehude's exim doesn't like the (cacert-signed, wildcard) cert my box offers when sending mail.
Blocking that allowed the TLS negotiation to complete, resulting in: Verified TLS connection established to buxtehude.debian.org[140.211.166.26]:25: TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 (256/256 bits) Most MXs, including the MX for @lists.deb, accept the cert and add a header like: Received: from ore.jhcloos.com (ore.jhcloos.com [IPv6:2604:2880::b24d:a297]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.jhcloos.com", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by bendel.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 026175B for <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Some verify it. Buxtehude is the first so far to drop the socket as soon as it sees it. -JimC -- James Cloos <cl...@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/m3bo3y5zno....@carbon.jhcloos.org