On 08/21/2013 05:45 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Large hosting companies not having made their scripts etc. good enough > to ride out upgrades well should have nothing to do with any decision.
I don't think the problem here is with "Large hosting companies not having made their scripts etc. good enough". I don't think it has anything to do with size, or the type of company, or even the activity. I believe that the short life cycles of our stable releases is a problem for *MANY* companies. Dreamhost is the tree hiding the forest. On 08/21/2013 07:08 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > It also doesn't hurt that OpenStack does all commit gating on Ubuntu, > thus making Ubuntu the preferred platform (RHEL/CentOS will likely > join Ubuntu in the gate someday soon). We asked Debian to be added. I hope that Debian will be added as a non-voting gating one day. I'll try to push for that to happen. > DreamHost is a player in > OpenStack, so it may be that the momentum of Ubuntu plus OpenStack is > just too great to ignore with the added pain of the 2 year upgrade > treadmill. > > I will ask them when I visit their offices at the next OpenStack LA > meetup. :) Well, yes. But also OpenStack release cycles are even shorter than Debian! Only a year, then the old stable is not supported anymore. It doesn't make sense that Dreamhost is complaining about 2 years of security support, when they are now in the "upgrade every 6 months" OpenStack stuff... If they join me and become supporters of a kind of "LTS" for OpenStack, that'd be great, and I would be very supportive of it. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/521a9510.6060...@debian.org