On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 05:44:16PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > My last question is, given the answers to the previous questions, what > > do we do with the R packages that are already in the archive and also > > contain data that is editable as is but do have an original source, > > who will do it, and what is the timeline in case of inaction. > > The package maintainer should handle it; in the case of inaction from > upstream, the package maintainer can then either remove the data, split > the package, move the package to non-free, or remove the package from > Debian entirely. The timeline should be the standard one that is used > for all RC bugs. > > > In the current situation, that I describe as "active bitrotting", we > > do not apply the same rules to the packages that enter the archive and > > the packages that are already in, which cause the packages under > > active development to become obsolete each time new dependancies can > > not enter in Debian. > > We actually do and should apply the same rules. Sometimes violations of > the rules are missed for a while, though, and we have to come back and > file bugs with severity serious to deal with the problem.
Just to provide the number and names of source packages in main/unstable that are containing at least one *.rda file: $ echo "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable main" > sources.list.main_sources_unstable $ sudo apt-file --architecture source --sources-list sources.list.main_sources_unstable update $ apt-file --architecture source --sources-list sources.list.main_sources_unstable search ".rda" | sed 's/: .*$//' | uniq boot car cluster dichromat effects erm fportfolio gdata gplots gtools hmisc lattice latticeextra lme4 lmtest mcmcpack mgcv misc3d multcomp nlme permute r-base r-bioc-biobase r-cran-bayesm r-cran-boolnet r-cran-coda r-cran-colorspace r-cran-deal r-cran-diagnosismed r-cran-epi r-cran-epicalc r-cran-epitools r-cran-evd r-cran-genetics r-cran-ggplot2 r-cran-gss r-cran-mapdata r-cran-maps r-cran-mass r-cran-plotrix r-cran-plyr r-cran-pscl r-cran-psy r-cran-randomforest r-cran-reshape r-cran-reshape2 r-cran-rocr r-cran-sn r-cran-sp r-cran-teachingdemos r-cran-timeseries r-cran-vcd r-cran-vegan r-cran-vgam r-other-bio3d r-zoo raschsampler rggobi rmatrix robustbase rpart sandwich sm strucchange survival tseries urca These are 67 packages. I have no numbers whether the *.rda files were added in a later version than the one accepted by ftpmaster. > > Currently, my take would be to move packages to non-free. This would > > also allow us to ship the PDF documentation that we currently delete. > > In these cases, we should split the package out into a non-free > component and a free component. I personally would agree with the ftpmaster policy used in the past to accept these packages in main. > I should note that I'm currently distributing via debian-r.debian.net a > few hundred packages which probably have this particular problem too. ... in case you really regard this as "problem". Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130806214555.gc18...@an3as.eu
