]] Wouter Verhelst > Yes, freedesktop people have given up on many useful things, which is a > shame in my opinion (consider the fact that dbus can't be restarted on a > running system without causing breakage).
There's no «freedesktop people». fdo is a set of fairly loosely associated projects. > That doesn't necessarily need to mean that Debian can't do the right > thing, though. If indeed restart after upgrade becomes the default, then > that could fix some similar issues. Mean time, if "short downtime" > really is important to you, there's a workaround: don't upgrade all your > packages with dist-upgrade, but upgrade the important packages (Apache > and MySQL in your example) plus their dependencies first (so the list of > packages being upgraded is much smaller, and the time between "things go > down" and "things are up again"), and *then* do a dist-upgrade > (upgrading everything else). If you need short down-time, you should be using multiple hosting locations and such anyway, so just take one host out of rotation, upgrade it with reboots and whatnot, re-rotate it. Repeat for all the other hosts. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bojxzy8l....@xoog.err.no