On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 at 11:05:53 +0200, Arno Töll wrote: > I can't believe Gnome 3 > wouldn't support older legacy tray widgets though, I'd assume it would, > similar to KDE 4, supports older tray widgets through some legacy wrapping.
GNOME 3 has a freedesktop-compatible notification area ("tray") (although it's less visible than it used to be - the status icons only appear when a notification is shown or the mouse pointer hits the bottom of the screen), so technically, this will work. The deprecation isn't technical, it's social (following the GNOME 3 UI design). The notification area was meant to be for notifications, but in practice nearly everyone used it as a dumping ground for persistent things: background applications, status indications (battery, wifi, ...), and so on. The recommended thing in GNOME 3 is to use persistent notifications, which stay around until the user has read them, and so don't need to be associated with a status icon. <http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray> The GNOME 2 HIG also discouraged use of the notification area for non-notification things, but less strongly, and in practice everyone puts them there anyway because it's easier and more cross-desktop than writing a panel applet... (HIG reference: <http://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/2.32/desktop-notification-area.html.en>) This isn't unique to GNOME 3 - Unity has a similar design (persistent notifications, and dedicated UI widgets for "core UI" things like battery/wifi indicators), and Windows suffers particularly badly from developers misusing the notification area in the same way, although Microsoft's attempts to solve it have been a bit different (<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511448.aspx>). It wouldn't surprise me to learn that KDE 4 has a similar solution, but I haven't used KDE much since 2.x, so I don't know how they dealt with this. S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110714102142.gb25...@reptile.pseudorandom.co.uk