On 22/04/2011 18:05, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 22 avril 2011 à 17:51 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : >> The difference is that a user has to know more when enabling stuff, as >> they get shown many things were enabling does not make any sense. >> And there is no way to say "show me everything in the menu", which is >> especially bad for environments were assuming you know what they need >> is even more likely wrong. > > You’re missing something. A menu that “shows everything” is unusable. > The Debian menu is a very good example of that kind of problem.
It depends on your 'menu' use. I've a few application icons directly in my panel (the applications I always use). For application I sometimes use, I generally start them by typing in a terminal. So, my menu use is: - to drag application icon in the panel - to see all the applications in a domain that are installed on my system when I want to be some unusual things (recording and editing sound recently). The Debian menu is the best way for me to find the info (the gnome menu without the Debian submenu is way to restricted to be useful in this case). I do not understand why you cannot understand that some people do not necessarily use menus as the gnome team wants its "users" to use it (ie as a preselected small list of applications fully integrated with gnome) > Try a lenny system (or a squeeze system with a disabled > gnome-menus-blacklist) and install both KDE and GNOME full desktops. Now > try to use the GNOME panel for an hour. vdanjean@eyak:~$ sudo gnome-menus-blacklist --help vdanjean@eyak:~$ sudo gnome-menus-blacklist -h vdanjean@eyak:~$ sudo gnome-menus-blacklist vdanjean@eyak:~$ man gnome-menus-blacklist Aucune entrée de manuel pour gnome-menus-blacklist vdanjean@eyak:~$ dlocate gnome-menus-blacklist gnome-menus: /usr/sbin/gnome-menus-blacklist vdanjean@eyak:~$ zgrep -i blacklist /usr/share/gnome-menus/* vdanjean@eyak:~$ Where is the information about gnome-menus-blacklist ? Regards, Vincent -- Vincent Danjean GPG key ID 0x9D025E87 vdanj...@debian.org GPG key fingerprint: FC95 08A6 854D DB48 4B9A 8A94 0BF7 7867 9D02 5E87 Unofficial packages: http://moais.imag.fr/membres/vincent.danjean/deb.html APT repo: deb http://people.debian.org/~vdanjean/debian unstable main -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4db5d4db.6080...@free.fr