2009/4/15 David Nusinow <da...@gravitypulls.net>: > Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of > why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing > up a more complete explanation soon.
I understand that hal fills an important gap in linux; I think that from an architectural point of view, an abstraction layer is the way to go. The problem is that, in my experience, hal is a horrible piece of software. It makes my (computing) life worse. Its obscure, erratic behaviour and the lack of documentation make me feel like when I was using windows 98. (ok, not *that* bad, but kind of) I am willing to pay the price to avoid it as long as possible (hopefully it will get better, or replaced, in the future), and since it looks like it's possible ATM, I would really be happy if X did not depend on that. (I see you've written that probably X dependency on hal will be demoted, I appreciate.) 2009/4/15 Tollef Fog Heen <tfh...@err.no>: > A machine without USB or PCI is not a particularly common sight those > days. Heck, even machines without SATA are becoming uncommon. I should have stated more clearly that I meant hot plugging for X. I hotplug my USB disks since when hal didn't exist. I never hot plugged a SATA disk, but I don't think you need hal to do that. Anyway, you are being PC-centric. Debian is getting on many low power devices that often don't have USB, nor PCI, nor SATA, though they have a graphical interface (e.g. mobile phones). And a bloat like hal hurts even more there. Cheers, Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
