Hi,

GTK+ 1.2 has been deprecated upstream for 6 years. There is no security
support for it, and no new applications using it have been out for quite
a long time as well.

I think it is more than time to remove it from the archive. Of course,
this can only be done after we have dealt with the reverse dependencies.
For them, there are not many solutions:
      * Look for alternatives using GTK+ 2.x. For most utilities and
        games, they already exist, whether already in the archive or
        somewhere else ready to be packaged.
      * Port to GTK+ 2.x. Depending on the application, this can be a
        trivial or very large task, and it requires a bit of motivation.
      * Simply drop the application from the archive.


Here is a first list of packages that could either be removed right now
because they seem to have replacements, or updated with little work. If
there are no objections, I think we should ask for removal of all of
those which don’t have a GTK+ 2 version.

Guenter Geiger (Debian/GNU) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   shaketracker
 => we have other sequencers in the archive
   swami
 => upstream is currently porting it to GTK+ 2

Marc Dequènes (Duck) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   worlded
 => no upstream news for 4 years, we have better such games in the
    archive

Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gcrontab
 => gnome-schedule

Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gtimer
 => hamster-applet, gnotime

Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   snowflake
 => just a toy

Ernesto Nadir Crespo Avila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xwhois
 => gnome-nettool

Bradley Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gtkmm

Jon Bernard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   e16menuedit
 => we don’t ship E16 anymore

Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gato
 => gnome-schedule

Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   wmclockmon
 => Yet Another WindowMaker Applet

Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   powertweak
 => Is that still relevant with modern power management policies?

Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xarchon
 => Unmaintained upstream for 5 years, we’re not lacking games
   xpuyopuyo
 => flobopuyo, cuyo…

Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gtk-engines-lighthouseblue

Patryk Cisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   kadu
 => pidgin

Debian Electronics Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gwave
 => gtkwave

Debian Games Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   lmemory
 => gcompris ?

Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   digitaldj
 => prokyon3

Randall Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gradio
 => gnomeradio

Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   pinentry
 => just need to disable the GTK+ 1.2 build

Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   aria
 => gwget
   manedit
 => gmanedit

Devid Filoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   dillo
 => there is a new upstream based on FLTK

Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   predict (U)

Debian QA Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gnome-libs
   gtkfontsel
   gtkglarea
   imlib
   netdude
   sqlrelay
   stegdetect

 => QA-maintained packages should be removed as soon as they don’t have
    remaining rdeps

Steinar H. Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   amoeba
 => just a toy, and we have rss-glx

Wartan Hachaturow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   grpn
 => calcoo

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gpppon
 => gnome-ppp

Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   cccd
 => we have so many CD players that I won’t list them
   powershell
 => gnome-terminal, xfterm…

Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gqcam
 => cheese…

Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xbindkeys-config
 => I think we have quite a number of key->event managers already

Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xoscope
 => extace

Matthew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gbib
 => pybliographer ?

Daniel Kobras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   libdv
 => we just need to stop building libdv-bin

Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   fvwm (U)

Antonin Kral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gtkguitune
 => lingot

Noèl Köthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   mbrowse
 => tkmib + at least 2 online services doing the same

Wesley J. Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gwave (U)

Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gnome-lokkit
 => so many iptables frontends…

Ron Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   wxwindows2.4
 => no remaining rdeps

Jacob Luna Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xscorch
 => atanks, scorched3d

Eduardo Marcel Macan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   vertex
 => blender ?

Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   codebreaker
 => gnome-mastermind

OHURA Makoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   tex-guy
 => xgdvi can be replaced by evince and many others
   xemacs21
 => maybe we need to wait for emacs23

Paul Mangan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   sylpheed-gtk1 (U)

Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   qiv
 => yay, an image viewer

GOTO Masanori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   lm-batmon
 => yay, a battery monitor

Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   guile-gtk-1.2
   gwave (U)

Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   sylpheed-gtk1
 => sylpheed-claws

Stephen M Moraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   karpski
 => wireshark

Ryan Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gdk-pixbuf

Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   lopster
 => did you know that Napster was shut down?

Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   crossfire-client
 => just need to disable the GTK+ 1.2 build

Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   zangband
 => yay, a rogue game

Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   cheops
 => I don’t think we have a similar tool, but all the functionality  
    should be covered by combining 2 or 3 of them.
   i2e
 => We have more generic and modern dictionary tools

Víctor Pérez Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gfslicer
 => Several tools can build multi-file archives, which boils down to the
    same functionality in a more portable way

Frederic Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gaby
 => I think we have a number of such tools already
   geg
 => lybniz, kmplot

Florian Ragwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   wmmaiload
 => Yay, a WindowMaker dockapp

Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gbase
 => gcalctool and many others
   gentoo
 => yay, a file manager
   gman
 => yelp and many others

Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   lmemory (U)

Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   libjsw

Stefan Schimanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   qtpixmap

Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   xdialog
 => zenity

Alain Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gsnes9x
 => visualboyadvance ?

Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   sylpheed-gtk1 (U)

Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gbuffy
 => Yay, a mail notification tool

Roberto Suarez Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   wallp
 => drapes

Wolfgang Sourdeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   ghfaxviewer
 => Yay, a picture viewer with a restricted scope

Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   fvwm
 => Why does it depend on both GTK+ 1.2 and 2.x ?

Joop Stakenborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   baycomepp (U)
   baycomusb (U)
   hf (U)

Roland Stigge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gcvs
 => At least the toolkit is assorted to the VCS. Many IDEs or editors 
    still have a CVS plugin anyway.
   gps
 => gnome-system-monitor and many others

Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   libgtkimreg
   paul
 => Yay, an imaging library and an image viewer

Marcela Tiznado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gtkgo
 => quarry

Guido Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   directory-administrator
 => gq + several web-based such frontends

Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   soundtracker
 => there are a few other trackers, especially ardour, although none of 
    them uses the MOD/XM format

Michael Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   corewars
 => maybe we should package pmars instead?

Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   putty
 => hotwire, a plain terminal…

Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   mountapp
 => yay, a dockapp

Rafal Zawadzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   wmshutdown
 => yay, a dockapp


For the following packages, I didn’t find any trivial solution, so this
needs further investigation.

A. Maitland Bottoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   predict

Nicolas Boullis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   mah-jong

Debian Hamradio Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   baycomepp
   baycomusb
   hf

Manuel Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   crank

Yu Guanghui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   sulu

Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   pixelize

Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gpsim-led
   gpsim-logic

Daniel Kobras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   dbmix
   ygraph

Carlos Laviola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   lazarus

Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   ledcontrol
   xt

Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   perspic

Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gtalk

Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   baycomepp (U)
   baycomusb (U)
   hf (U)

Jose M. Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   kmd

Mazen Neifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   lazarus (U)

Patrick Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   baycomepp (U)
   baycomusb (U)
   hf (U)

Jaime Robles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   baycomepp (U)
   baycomusb (U)
   hf (U)

Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gtkpool

Ryan Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   psemu-input-padjoy
   psemu-sound-peops
   psemu-video-x11

Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   linpopup

Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   python-visual

Riccardo Stagni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   gcx

Lucas Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   pilrc

Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   lazarus (U)
   python-visual (U)


Cheers,
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