Hi, Exim has the habit of trying to find out about its host names and IP addresses when it starts up. This has, in the past, been an issue for the Debian packages, since a Debian system might be on a dial-on-demand modem line with expensive costs and thus should not do unnecessary DNS lookup when the MTA is started.
A very similiar mail has been on Debian Planet two weeks ago, but I haven't received responses that got me clued up. Therefore, I am using the last resort, debian-devel. I'd like to solicit opinions from people who are more experienced than me with Unix, the local resolver library including /etc/hosts and /etc/nsswitch.conf, DNS, and - especially - the customs that apply on a system running IPv6. To avoid the extra DNS lookups, the Exim packages have a Debconf option to configure exim for "minimal DNS usage", which hardcodes the hostname into Exim's configuration at package configuration time. This was necessary since - without this option - exim looks up its own host name in the DNS even when a completely local operation is invoked. In some cases, exim still looks up its IP address when a listening daemon starts up. This is why the Debian installer configures 127.0.1.1 (not 127.0.0.1) for the local hostname on installation, yielding /etc/hosts files like 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 myfoo.localdomain myfoo # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts However, in the last few weeks I have heard a few cases where exim does IPv6 AAAA lookups when a listening daemon starts up. An strace shows a gethostbyname2 call for AF_INET6, and if we want to continue the line we went in the past, we'd need an IPv6 address for myfoo.localdomain in /etc/hosts as well. I am now wondering how this could be implemented. In IPv4, we have 127.0.0.0/8 available for the local host and could arbitrarily choose 127.0.1.1 to configure the local host name on. In IPv6, there is only ::1, which is a single address. Would it be possible to choose an arbitrary "link local" address on lo, the loopback interface? Or is there any better way? This being said, I consider the entire 127.0.1.1 business a horrible hack which is one of the most ugly things I have ever seen. Do we have a chance to implement this in a more cleaner way, or is it still the way to go for the distribution, where we don't know zilch about the environment where an installed system is going to be used? This issue leads to people adding their local host name to ::1 in /etc/hosts, which might re-introduce other issues that we experienced in a phase when we did the same for 127.0.0.1, eventually ending up with 127.0.1.1, or to disabling IPv6 altogether, which is a bad thing in a time where IPv6 should be enabled, not disabled. So I'd like to find a clean solution which could then be implemented in whatever part of Debian might be responsible. I feel that the IPv6 issue is the same that led us to invoke the 127.0.1.1 hack for IPv4, and if the answer to the IPv6 issue is "fix exim", then _how_ should exim be fixed, and why wasn't the answer to the IPv4 version of the issue "fix exim"? Any hints will be appreciated. Greetings Marc -- -------------------------------------- !! No courtesy copies, please !! ----- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | http://www.zugschlus.de/ Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 621 72739834
