On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 09:18:05PM -0500, Stuart Anderson wrote:
> >>> After further Sarge->Etchupgrade testing, it seems that this problem is 
> >>not
> >>> an occasional fluke, but is at best non-deterministic. It needs to be 
> >>fixed
> >>> properly as described in #404159.

> >>I don't understand what this has to do with sarge->etch upgrade testing
> >>given that php5-ming was not in sarge, hopefully the maintainer can 
> >>explain
> >>(and explain why this should be a release blocker).

> I have a set of sarge backports of the packages that I have been using
> on some production servers here. Technically, Steve is right in that
> this doesn't apply to a sarge->etch upgrade, except on my servers (but
> see below).

> The remaining problem, is that the php package changed the scheme it
> uses for identifying what modules to load. This happened around the
> time -10 was uploaded, and the problem had not been seen (or at least
> not recognized) then. The problem is that the php.ini file gets replaced
> by the php package

Uh, no, the php.ini file is only supposed to be replaced by the php package
if the administrator *approves* of having the new version installed.  That's
the administrator's choice; if they choose to discard local changes to this
config file from the sarge version, then yeah, any changes from php-ming are
going to fall out, but that's hardly RC any more than it's RC when the same
thing happens to an admin allowing a conffile to be overwritten.

> and the addition of the phpN-ming module gets lost.

Yes, but only as described above.

> A 'dpkg-reconfigure phpN-ming' fixes the problem. This bug can be seen
> in a testing->testing upgrade as well as the sarge->etch upgrade that is
> only my problem. Bug 404159 is for this situation.

Sure.  It can also happen in an etch->lenny upgrade in the future.

And yes, installing a per-extension file to the conf.d directory is
absolutely preferable, but not RC in my opinion.

> After doing a few more upgrades, I have seen this problem most of the
> time, instead of the once which made me think it was just some kind of a
> fluke. This is why I raised the severity. I didn't fix this back in
> Deceember as I thought the old scheme was still adequate, and I didn't
> want to be changing postinstalls so late in the release. Recent experience
> has indicated it needs to be done anyway, so I have set aside some time this
> weekend to prepare -11 packages.

> Btw, if anyone can put in a good word for me with the DAM (I'm on the last
> step of the NM process), I could save the time of hunting down my sponsor
> to get the -11 packages uploaded. 8-)

If you can post the URL for these packages to this bug, I'm sure someone
will pick them up for you.  Not that I'm opposed to putting in a good word
with the DAM, but there's some difference of time scale that applies
there... :)

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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