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Package: ttf-mph-2b-damase
Version: 001.000-1
Severity: serious
Justification: contains non-free glyphs

The attached messages indicate that some of the glyphs in
ttf-mph-2b-damase will need to be stripped.

This may or may not be possible with the latest fontforge:

(12:07:52) pabs: oh, yeah, I should probably update the debian package
to remove the Sylheti glyphs, are you able to do that and send me a new
copy? I'd have to do it with fontforge and I don't know if it would be
able to preserve all the font features you used
(12:08:49) mark: I don't have a font application that supports plane 1,
so it would ruin the font if I did it. I had to send it out to James
Kass for the p1 support.
(12:09:03) pabs: oh, hmm
(12:09:21) mark: But I didn't use any special features that would be
ruined, I don't think
(12:10:29) pabs: ok, well, I'll try with fontforge, we'll see though :)
(12:10:58) mark: ok

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bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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Everyone -

> Mark Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the author and he released it
> into the public domain...

Far be it from me to discourage development of free fonts, but I don't think
Mark has the rights to release it into the public domain. In a quick look at
the font, I saw many font styles I recognised - including ones that are not
currently under free licenses. For example, the Sylheti Nagri glyphs are an
identical copy (node for node, coordinate for coordinate) of the Sylheti
font available from http://www.sylheti.org.uk/page5.html. That font is
freeware, but is not under public domain, or any FLOSS license.

I hate to sound like the font police, but this font is not legal, as it
contains copyrighted material from other fonts without any acknowledgement.
I'm not at all implying that Mark intentionally intended to breach
copyright, as it is particularly common in South Asia to find fonts that
have been copied with the copyright stripped out, replaced with public
domain. Mark may have copied glyphs from one of those fonts. I just think
someone ought to do a little more research to be sure that all the contents
are truly free. It may even be that some of Mark's sources could be
convinced to release OFL versions of their fonts!

If we want to get the typographic community's support behind free and open
source fonts, we have to prove to them that we honour copyright. Otherwise
all our arguments fall flat, and designers will run from FLOSS and the OFLB
like the plague. 

V.

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Victor Gaultney
SIL International



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On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 15:17 +0000, Victor Gaultney wrote:

> > Mark Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the author and he released it
> > into the public domain...
> 
> Far be it from me to discourage development of free fonts, but I don't think
> Mark has the rights to release it into the public domain.

(11:53:52) mark: I don't remember copying that font. I suppose it's
possible, I know I used it for information about the script
(11:54:32) mark: But if necessary, Sylheti can be removed from the font,
or new glyphs can be designed. Simply "recognizing font styles" doesn't
imply any sort of breach of copyright
(11:56:30) mark: The Latin, Hebrew, Greek, Cyrillic, Arabic glyphs are
all original, as are the Glagolitic, Gothic, Linear B, Cypriot, because
I actually still have the designs for all of those
(11:57:01) mark: The other ones, I'd have to check to make sure
(11:57:06) mark: But I was sure the entire font was my work
(11:57:25) mark: One sec
(11:58:38) mark: ok... the arabic glyphs are original, but in most apps
if you type them it will show up as your system's default arabic font
because there aren't OpenType tables for it
(12:02:32) mark: but after a cursory look, it appears eveything's
original (most of the ranges are typified by uneven contours because I
didn't "finish" the glyph outlines off)
(12:02:41) mark: except for Sylheti
(12:03:46) pabs: thanks for the info, I'll let you know of any more
questions
(12:03:50) mark: ok :-)

> If we want to get the typographic community's support behind free and open
> source fonts, we have to prove to them that we honour copyright. Otherwise
> all our arguments fall flat, and designers will run from FLOSS and the OFLB
> like the plague. 

Indeed.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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Source: ttf-mph-2b-damase
Source-Version: 001.000.dfsg.2-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
ttf-mph-2b-damase, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/t/ttf-mph-2b-damase/ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1.diff.gz
ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1.dsc
  to pool/main/t/ttf-mph-2b-damase/ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1.dsc
ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/t/ttf-mph-2b-damase/ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1_all.deb
ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/t/ttf-mph-2b-damase/ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Format: 1.7
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:09:43 +0900
Source: ttf-mph-2b-damase
Binary: ttf-mph-2b-damase
Architecture: source all
Version: 001.000.dfsg.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Changed-By: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 ttf-mph-2b-damase - font with ranges from the latest version of unicode
Closes: 410610
Changes: 
 ttf-mph-2b-damase (001.000.dfsg.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
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   * Strip non-free Limbu and Bengali glyphs from the font (Closes: #410610)
Files: 
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ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1.dsc
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ttf-mph-2b-damase_001.000.dfsg.2-1.diff.gz
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