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(I'm one of the maintainers of the Mailman package in Debian, the OS - slash - "GNU/Linux distribution" that Lukasz is using.) Mark Sapiro wrote: >Lukasz Szybalski wrote: >>On 10/24/06, Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> wrote: >>> We still don't know what causes the timeout. The smtplib debugging >>> info would help. >> Where would i find it or how would i get it. Error, smtp, >> smtp-failure, syslog has only what i have pasted in. > The patch to SMTPDirect.py which you say you installed causes > Pythons smtplib to write debugging info to stderr Not with the version of smtplib Lukasz has (python 2.3). It writes to stdout. I sent to Lukasz a version of smtplib that writes debugging info to stderr. > which in a normal Mailman environment is logged to Mailman's error > log. In the version of Mailman that Lukasz uses, not exactly. It is logged to a MultiLogger which tries to log to Mailman's error log _and_ to the stderr of the process. Because the process is running as a daemon, it does not have a stderr and thus writing to stderr fails, which falls back (through _logexc_) to ... writing to stderr. Which fails, but this time the exception (invalid file descriptor) is not caught and Mailman barfs out with a traceback like (I manually patched the smptlib on that machine to write to stderr instead of stdout): Nov 02 15:21:51 2006 (18279) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor Nov 02 15:21:51 2006 (18279) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 166, in process conn.quit() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 93, in quit self.__conn.quit() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/smtplib.py", line 709, in quit self.docmd("quit") File "/usr/lib/python2.3/smtplib.py", line 370, in docmd self.putcmd(cmd,args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/smtplib.py", line 326, in putcmd self.send(str) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/smtplib.py", line 310, in send if self.debuglevel > 0: print >> sys.stderr, 'send:', `str` File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/MultiLogger.py", line 45, in write _logexc(logger, msg) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Utils.py", line 22, in _logexc sys.__stderr__.write('Logging error: %s\n' % logger) IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor Looking at the code, this seems to be fixed in Mailman 2.1.9, and I would assume probably in some earlier versions, too. Best Regards, -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]