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Package: sun-java5
Version: 1.5.0-08-1
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 2.3


Section 2.3 of the Debian Policy Manual says that Debian reserves "the right to 
restrict 
files from being included anywhere in our archives if their use or distribution 
would 
break a law".

AFAICT Debian is in violation of the licensing terms for SUN's JVM.  
Distribution anyway 
is a legal offence in most countries, thus severity "serious".

The DLJ (which I found at http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ.html#dlj) says 
that you're 
not allowed to ("the Software" refers to SUN's JVM):
"
combine, configure or distribute the Software to run in conjunction with any 
additional 
software that implements the same or similar functionality or APIs as the 
Software
"

Debian is shipping libswt3.1-gtk-java:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/libswt3.1-gtk-java

Its description says: "SWT (Standard Widget Toolkit) provides functionality 
similar to 
Swing".

Since Debian is distributing SUN's JVM to run in conjunction with libswt (what 
else 
would libswt be used for?), which "provides functionality similar to Swing", 
this seems to 
be a direct violation of the licensing terms to me.

As libswt has been in main for a while, and SUN's JVM is a new package in 
non-free, it 
seems logical to drop SUN's JVM to resolve this rather than libswt.

  Regards //Johan

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Johan Walles wrote:
> AFAICT Debian is in violation of the licensing terms for SUN's JVM.
> Distribution anyway is a legal offence in most countries, thus
> severity "serious".
> 
> The DLJ (which I found at
> http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ.html#dlj) says that you're not
> allowed to ("the Software" refers to SUN's JVM):
> "
> combine, configure or distribute the Software to run in conjunction
> with any additional software that implements the same or similar
> functionality or APIs as the Software
> "
> 
> Debian is shipping libswt3.1-gtk-java:
> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/libswt3.1-gtk-java

SWT is explicitly exempted from this clause by the legally binding DLJ
FAQ [1].  FAQ #15 explicitly allows Eclipse.  Since Eclipse requires
SWT, the FAQ implicitly allows the distribution of SWT with Sun's
Java.

You could argue that the DLJ would only allow an Eclipse package, and
not separate Eclipse and libswt packages.  However, there are enough
problems with other packages not explicitly listed in the FAQ that
there is not much point in dealing with this subtlety.  Either all of
those other packages is ok, in which case libswt is ok, or they are
not, in which case it does not matter if libswt is ok.

So I am closing this bug.  Despite Jeroen's complaints, the best place
to follow up is in the original bug #370295.

Cheers,
Walter Landry
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[1] http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ.html#q15

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