Hi both,

[Recovering some missing context for #1104275]

> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 08:21:53PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> > Hi Rebecca,
> > 
> > > My understanding of this policy is that you *can* download *data*, but 
> > > can't
> > > download and run executable code:
> > > https://sources.debian.org/src/autopkgtest/5.49/doc/README.package-tests.rst/#L569
> > 
> > Thank you for pointing this excerpt out, I should have followed
> > the reference to the later paragraph of the documentation.
> > 
> > > Hence, the Forbidden in this particular test is probably coming from the
> > > data source, not Debian.  Hence, substituting a different online data 
> > > source
> > > (if a suitable one can be found) should work.
> > 
> > Right, what seems to be happening is that ricediversity.org's
> > domain reservation expired.  Thankfully the dataset can be
> > recovered from the Web Archive, but I don't want to hammer it
> > with CI requests.  On close examination, the archive contains a
> > rice variety genotype associated to a research paper from 2011,
> > and that's about all.  To the best of my knowledge, this is non
> > copyrightable empirical data.
> > 
> > I see if I can convince Tony Travis to include the data set to
> > his PIQUE implementation upstream along the test suite.  That
> > should make things simpler for everyone.

Chris Hofstaedtler, on 2025-04-30:
> If other packages also want this dataset, maybe its useful to stick
> it into a new source package. But obviously that would be forky
> material.

I thought so, but that probably won't be needed, as the dataset
has been accepted upstream.  I'll probably want to make some
adjustments in d/copyright to document the situation if deemed
needed.  Overall the situation should resolve by itself on next
upstream release.

If new upstream release takes time or happens to not be suitable
for publication in trixie, I suppose it could also be possible
ship the dataset via debian/; although from past interaction
with ftpmaster, I'm under the impression this is frowned upon
because of the large size of the debian.tar.xz for each single
package update.

Have a nice day,  :)
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