On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 08:59:44PM +0000, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > > Do the cloud images use avahi at all? Assuming I'm looking at the right > > > manifest: > > > > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/cloud/trixie/daily/20250324-2061/debian-13-generic-amd64-daily-20250324-2061.json > > > > No, in fact most cloud environments don't support multicast networking > > at all, so disabling it is entirely safe. > > > > > it seems not, so how about this: I'll take a personal risk and we can > > > try once more with the pkg conflict. I'll reinstate the package, with > > > an added "Conflicts: avahi-daemon" so that users have to choose one or > > > the other, and avahi is the default so it always wins unless someone > > > has very specific and customized use cases like yours. > > > > That works for me. > > > > > If everything goes fine, then all good. If instead the TC escalates > > > again to DAM, then I'll remove the package again, and work to find an > > > alternative that you can use with networkd in the cloud images, and try > > > and find time to implement it. > > > > > > How does this sound? > > > > Well, we obviously would prefer to find a solution that doesn't involve > > removing networkd altogether, should it come to that, but I'd hope we > > don't get to that point. > > LOL, he already escalated, not even had time to rinse the changes > through the CI and he already got them to send a warning. Guess he had > the complaint ready to send to DAM in the draft folder. > > That answers the question of whether it's safe to add back resolved > then - you mentioned you don't need the stub resolver, but just > something to manage dhcp -> networkd -> resolve.conf, right? I think I > can cook something up, I'll get on that next, who needs sleep anyway
Please let's not get ahead of ourselves. I think Stefano was simply pointing out something that had happned in the past, not any new DAM involvement. Keeping systemd-resolved in place is vastly preferable to any cloud-specific workaround. We used to have such a thing, before moving to systemd-networkd/resolved, and are not excited about the prospect of going back thered. noah
