Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>>>>> "BD" == Boris Daix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

>     BD> My conclusion is that speechd-el is not fully installed.  Could
>     BD> you add the lines mentioned in point 5, section 2.1
>     BD> "installation" of speechd-el info file to
>     BD> /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50speechd-el.el?  
>
> I don't think this is a good idea, since users who don't use speech
> output (e.g. when they use Braille output only) would receive error
> messages about not being able to connect to Speech Dispatcher.

Errors may be polite warnings.  speechd-enable-ssip and
speechd-enable-braille variables could be set to t by default:
speechd-speak would load corresponding libraries, would try to connect
to speech-dispatcher and brlapi, would politely warn user if one of
them is unavailable.  The user may as well set one of these variables
to nil so that neither loading nor probing/warning happen anymore.  It
is my expectation, what do you think of it?  At least,
speechd-speak-read-.* may warn user if none of ssip or braille are
loaded.

>     BD> Otherwise you could drop a note about it in README.Debian as
>     BD> user is required to resume the installation.
>
> Yes, it should be documented more visibly.  It's documented in
> installation instructions in README, but apparently not all users read
> it :-), especially on upgrades (you're not the first one who got
> confused).

I expect (or an admin expects) "apt-get install speechd-el" to do the
job...  If this isn't enough, maintainer should have dropped a note in
README.Debian.  Users use, they don't install do they? :-) Debian is
very nice about that.

> I'll put a warning into README.Debian and NEWS.Debian.

Yes, but think about my suggestion above, it would even be easier for
everybody.

> Do you have some suggestion where to put the necessary instructions
> in the general speechd-el documentation so that even non-Debian
> users wouldn't overlook them?

You may emphasize that ssip and braille libraries are not loaded
automatically unless add-hook sexps are added to .emacs.el.  But I
agree, those who install speechd-el themselves (without "apt-get
install") should definitely read the installation section until the
end...

Thanks,
-- 
Boris Daix


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