On 2024-09-04 11:15:26 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 11:15:19AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:07:59PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > Severity: grave > > > Justification: renders package unusable > > > > That's a ridiculous severity/rationale
I completely disagree. "who" is a standard POSIX utility: https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/who.html So, in addition to prevent the use in an interactive shell (without any workaround), you are also likely to break existing scripts. This is a major regression for users of this utility; the current workaround is to stick to systemd 256.5-1. > Ack. > > I'll also note that for *currently* logged in sessions, wtmpdb is > not useful. logind knows So you mean that the following changelog is incorrect? systemd (256.5-2) unstable; urgency=medium [...] [ Luca Boccassi ] * Disable utmp support, replaced by wtmpdb. utmp is not y2038-safe, util- linux has now turned it off and relies on logind, so disable utmp support in logind too, as it is no longer necessary. wtmpdb replaces the functionality. > (and I think w(1) asks logind). Note that w is currently buggy in Debian/unstable (even with systemd 256.5-1), while it seems fine in bookworm. But no related changes are mentioned in the changelog. So it might also be another regression introduced by an earlier systemd version. -- Vincent Lefèvre <vinc...@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)