Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Using "I have been told" is not the way to go as in the current case where
> > the information you have been told is wrong....
>
> Stopp distributing lies. The CDDL does not conform to the DFSG. This
> decision has been taken in the way the Debian constitution tells how
> such decisions are taken. Such decisions are BTW even valid in the case
> his majesty Joerg Schilling doesn't approve them.

>From your habbit, it is obvious that's rather you who is distributing lies...

> > The CDDL is an approved open/free lisence.
>
> Again: The CDDL fails to meet the DFSG. This is not a claim where CDDL
> meets your standards or not, but it doesn't meet ours.

Prove that!

While it is simple to prove that the CDDL meets the DFSG: It has been
approved by a group pf people that use the same rules as Debian does,
I am still waiting for a prove of the converse.....


> Also, as usual, you are ignoring the vital fact that the combination of
> CDDL and GPL is something between legally dubious and illegal. Of
> course, you ca distribute whatever you want, but Debian is bound to
> legal behaviour.

It seems that you did never read the GPL and the CDDL in depth enough in order
to under stand either of them...

The GPL explicitely allows to use the code and it only forbids to use GPL
code in non-GPL projects. So it is obvious that the GPL allows to use non GPL
code in a GPL project.

This kind us usage is quite common, see the Veritas backup software.

Before you send more uninformed claims, please ask Mr. Moglen about the
goals of the GPL....

> > I am sorry to see that some people at Debian did start a "character 
> > assassination" campaign against the CDDL without ever giving evidence for 
> > their 
> > claims. It is a matter of facts that those people are unable to verify 
> > their 
> > claims using quotes from http://www.debian.org/social_contract and the parts
> > of the CDDL that might not be aliggned with 
> > http://www.debian.org/social_contract.
>
> All of this has happened. But you decided instead to ignore the results


Wrong!

If you are correct, you would be able to prove this, so do it!

....but nobody from Debian did ever prove that claim...

If you believe that it happened already, give pointers!
But as it never happened, you are unable to do this.

Jörg

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