Quoting Bernd Zeimetz (2021-01-09 22:09:06)
> > Since then, he continued develop under original project name 
> > Valentina, whereas Seamly2D virtually stalled with no substantial 
> > code changes , only superficial changes to build infrastructure, 
> > locales, and icons.
> 
> well, compared to valentina it seems to have way more pull requests 
> and is at least very responsive to requests. Looking on valentina it 
> seems to be a one-man-show - more or less.

Seems to me that Seamly2D is similarly a one-woman-show - difference 
(disregarding sexes) being that one is good with code and the other is 
good with words and people.

But I might be wrong.  Or maybe code is largely "done" and only _need_ 
smaller polishing.


> > I recommend that Debian does not carry Seamly3D, and encourage 
> > helping out with maintaining Valentina instead.
> 
> Would have been nice to know about that after I've opened the RFP bug 
> - to be hones I haven't even been able to find valentina with apt, 
> maybe I've searched for the wrong words.

For future sake, I recommend to share RFPs and ITPs to 
debian-devel@l.d.o as is the default for reportbug - I and some others 
check those and I am pretty sure I would have reacted when I saw this 
one - just as I did when I saw it appear in incoming.debian.org.

That said, you got a point about keywords - and curiously, you didn't 
add "sewing" to long description of Seamly2D either :-P


> > If you disagree, then I just wish you the best of luck with 
> > Seamly3D. I admit the severity is bloated - feel free to lower as 
> > you see fit.
> 
> I think keeping one of them in Debian is the better option, but for 
> now I'm not sure whats the best option. I'd be very happy to 
> co-maintain one. Never planned to put seamly2d into bullseye, so don't 
> worry about severities.

I genuinely think that if you still find Seamly2D worthy of investing 
your time on, after looking into the material shared below, then keep 
maintaining that in Debian.

Currently I am maintaining Valentina alone, but in a team intented to 
hold more people interested: Debian Design team.  You are most welcome 
to join that team - even if you expect to mostly be working on your own 
and care mostly for Seamly3D.


> Any idea why there is a fork at all? (feel free to reply in 
> private...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_(software) has a summary, with 
link to a longer blog entry about it.

Following trails from there, I found this post which seems essential: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20171216140149/http://valentinaproject.forumotion.me/t23-my-vision

I found no similar information from Seamly2D side of the fork.  If you 
find any then please do share.

Seems to me that Seamly2D has created a stronger brand with more fans, 
whereas Valentina has more programmers involved (i.e. has "only one" or 
"one at all", depending how you look at it).

I was hoping that the strong community of Seamly2D would lead to more 
sample documents than the relatively few shipped with Valentina, but I 
have so far not been able to locate any, and it seems all blog posts in 
Seamly2D shares only PDFs, no *source* patterns.  Therefore I also am 
unaware how compatible Valentina and Seamly2D is in their document 
formats, if at all.


 - Jonas

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