On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Sandro Tosi <mo...@debian.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Michael Gilbert <mgilb...@debian.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>>>> Don't the NMU guidelines [0] say otherwise when there is no maintainer
>>>> activity for more than 7 days?
>>>
>>> like they say "Have you clearly expressed your intention to NMU, at
>>> least in the BTS? It is also a good idea to try to contact the
>>> maintainer by other means (private email, IRC)."
>>
>> devref also says [1] "When someone NMUs your package, this means they
>> want to help you to keep it in good shape. This gives users fixed
>> packages faster."
>>
>> I intended no offense with the NMU, the goal was simply to fix yet
>> another longstanding unfixed jessie security issue [2], but I will try
>> to keep it in mind the next time I look into a matplotlib issue.
>
> you cannot shield yourself with NMU rules, be shown that you didnt
> fully follow the same rules you mentioned and come up with "I mean no
> offence";

I can defend the NMU on merit also, but yes I mean no offense at all
regardless of what the rules and procedures actually are.

> in particular because you also followed it up with relteam
> to get mpl unblocked,

My goal adding to the discussion there was to help make the case for
getting 1.4 accepted into testing.  Now that all of it's RC bugs are
fixed, the release team may be more willing to consider that.

> where you are supposed to get an approval before
> the upload

Nowhere does the release team state that as a requirement for uploads
to unstable [0].  In actuality they have zero jurisdiction over
unstable.

You might be thinking of TPU?

> (and you cannot even imagine how frustrated I am that mpl
> wont make it into Jessie, for just 1 day, because I tried to do things
> by the book)

Is there discussion elsewhere that led to that conclusion?  I don't
see anything in #debian-release.

I respect the frustration that you feel, but I think it may be
misplaced.  My goal is to help you get 1.4 into testing, so maybe we
could work together instead of arguing over semantics?

Best wishes,
Mike

[0] https://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html


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