On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:47:07AM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> > What cipher suite is configured inside the exim configuration?
> 
> I'm not sure where to find this information... Whatever cipher settings are 
> they would be default for Wheezy. As far as I'm aware there were no cipher 
> customisations on server side.

That may be the problem, as far as I have read the exim package has to be
configured to use ciphers if it get communication via TLS.

I found a arcticle on serverfault.com that gives some background
informations on that and on cipher suites also.
http://serverfault.com/questions/615855/exim-after-thunderbird-update-could-not-negotiate-a-supported-cipher-suite

But I don't know how to exactely configure a exim setup, so I can't give
better hints there. Maybe we should involve the Exim maintainers to. I
add them to the CC list, hopefully they can give some hints there to
look also.

@Andreas Metzler and Marc Haber
Dmitry gets various messages inside the exim log while trying to send
mails from Icedove 31 with enabled TLS.
>    TLS error on connection from [...]
>        (gnutls_handshake): Could not negotiate a supported cipher suite.

Looks for me like a missconfigured exim configuration. Can you please
give some useful light for this error message?

> > Please also read this article to see which cipher suite Mozilla is
> > supporting
> > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS
> 
> Thanks but I know little about TLS and I don't understand how it can be 
> helpful in my case...

Well, Mozilla has removed the support for weaker cipher suites in
Thunderbird >= 31 and I think this plus the exim config together ends in
a not working communication between Icedove and Exim.


> > What kind of CA you are using? If it is a md5 signature you have to use
> > an other not md5 hashed certificate.
> 
> cacert.org.
> 
> Certificate:
>     Data:
>         Version: 3 (0x2)
>       Signature Algorithm: sha512WithRSAEncryption
>         Subject Public Key Info:
>             Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
>                 Public-Key: (2048 bit)

CaCert was removed from the CA list inside Debian, but this does not
belong to your report I think. Also the signature is not done by md5.

> > Do you have checked your settings for security.tls.version.min and
> > security.tls.version.max? The *.min should be 0 and *.max should be 3,
> > if not your client will not support all version for SSL/TLS.
> > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Security.tls.version.*
> 
> Where are those settings? Anyway I've never touched them...

That's explained on top of the website. ;)
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_configuration

These settings are inside Icedove, you get the configs by Tools –>
Options –> Advanced –> General and press the Config Editor... button

Please play around with the security.tls.version.max option, with a
setting of "1" you say Icedove to explicit use a weak cipher suite.

> > I strongly believe this report is not a Icedove/Thunderbird related
> > problem.
> 
> I disagree. Otherwise how would you explain why downgrade of icedove fixed 
> the 
> problem?
> If icedove from Jessie can't talk to SMTP server on Wheezy it is a serious 
> regression on the client side i.e. in the Icedove.

I agree it's a user regression but you will have a missconfiguration on
the server side I still believe.
I work on various clients with Icedove/Thunderbird >=31 against T-Online
(a really big ISP in Germany), Google and a own root server with a
running exim 4.72 without any changes on my Icedove settings. So I
disagree until now this issue a Icedove related. But yes, I could be
wrong.

Regards
Carsten


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