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Subject: new kernel-package breaks official linux-2.6 kernel builds, should not
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Package: kernel-package
Version: 10.008
Severity: grave
As discussed on irc, the new 10.008 kernel-package was prematurely uploaded to
unstable, and breaks linux-2.6 builds. The issues at hand are :
1. the missing config caues manuals not to build
2. the headers build binaries uneccessarily (but doesn't break build)
3. missing depends and recommends in the linux-image package.
These are probably due to a k-p regression, which means that both the config
for the arch-indep build and the control file provided by the linux-2.6 build
infrastructure are not used for the final packages, for some yet mysterious
reason.
This is being worked on, and hopefully a fix will be out soon, but in the
meantime, kernel-package 10.008 is useless for official linux-2.6 builds, and
since it is in unstable, means we cannot upload anymore linux-2.6 packages
until it is fixed, which makes this RC.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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Hi,
You know, the sheer ignorance displayed in this bug report is
staggering. Firstly, there is no upload to stable; all 10.X uploads
have been to experimental. Not a big deal, but it just evidence that
the reporter has no clue, and is simply reporting out of sheer ill
will and does not want to have this arguments get confused with
facts.
> As discussed on irc, the new 10.008 kernel-package was prematurely uploaded to
> unstable, and breaks linux-2.6 builds. The issues at hand are :
This is the first thing that happens not to be true.
> 1. the missing config caues manuals not to build
kernel-package has never been meant t function without a
.config file; all documentation stresses the need to have one in
place before calling make-kpkg. When presented with a case when
there is none, make-kpkg does its best to create a reasonable .config
file, as documented, and calls make oldconfig, to let the user answer
any options that are nwerer.
The older versions of make-kpkg had a bug, meaning that
sometimes it failed to look into . and ./debian; this bug is now
fixed.
The official process was taking advantage of this bug, and now
has to be fixed. Not a k-p bug.
> 2. the headers build binaries uneccessarily (but doesn't break build)
It is not at all clear that the build is unnecesary, as the
reporter well knows, since he was around when this was discussed on
IRC (or perhaps he was unable to follow technical discussions). It is
not clear whether the kernel headers are really fully correct, and
have all the things in script/ dir compiled, unless a full build is
done; hence building anyway is the safe route.
So this is either malice, or sheer technical incompetence, I
can't tell.
> 3. missing depends and recommends in the linux-image package.
At last report, the build succeeded on i386, and was being
retried on ppc,
> These are probably due to a k-p regression, which means that both
> the config for the arch-indep build and the control file provided by
> the linux-2.6 build infrastructure are not used for the final
> packages, for some yet mysterious reason.
Err, I believe it is not k-p regression, it is misusing k-p,
or using it in undocumented ways, when not hacking around k-p and
making assumptions about internal behaviour would work. There is a
problem, and something needs to be fixed -- but it is not clear that
that is kernel-package.
> This is being worked on, and hopefully a fix will be out soon, but
> in the meantime, kernel-package 10.008 is useless for official
> linux-2.6 builds, and since it is in unstable, means we cannot
> upload anymore linux-2.6 packages until it is fixed, which makes
> this RC.
To this point, the reporter has done nothing apart from troll,
insult, and hinder efforts to diagnose the issue, and this BTS abuse
is just another step in the process.
manoj
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