On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:52:11AM +0200, Reinier Haasjes wrote:
> On 7/5/2012 8:14 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > I have deliberately commented out some of the fields in aiccu.conf.
> > This means that the service fails to start.
> > However, this is not a reason to completely break
> > apt-get upgrade|dist-upgrade.  Please continue if "invoke-rc.d start" fails
> > by using || true or a similar construct.
> 
> This is not a aiccu-bug, it happens to other packages also. I borked the
> sshd config and tried to upgrade:
> 
> Personaly I think you shouldn't bork the config to not get the service
> started but use something like: "update-rc.d disable aiccu"

While this is true, aiccu causes problems due to its unique requirement
that you must have a valid username/password etc. for your tunnel
broker.  ssh does not--by default it works without error, unless you
take deliberate steps to break it.

When I install aiccu, I might not yet have these details due to needing
to sign up, or not having the details to hand.  I don't think it's a
reasonable expectation to require these.

The other point is that if I don't have these details, then it's not
worth starting up.  There's a difference between a broken configuration
and being unconfigured.  If it's broken, then it's legitimate to fail
on startup; if it's not yet been configured, then by all means print
a warning, but please don't error out.

> > Also, please don't ask debconf questions for the username and password,
> > when these are trivially editable in the configuration file.  It serves
> > no purpose other than to annoy, because it interrupts upgrading by
> > requiring interactive prompting.  It's annoying because it's entirely
> > unnecessary and wastes everyone's time.  We have dpkg conffile
> > handling to deal with configuration file updates; please don't add
> > additional work on top of that.
> 
> This will be handled in #680593.

Thanks, that would be much appreciated.


Regards,
Roger

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