On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 04:30:38PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > You might consider yourself the codec police of Debian, but then I think the > owner of the pseudo package Reinhard assigned it to is considered as such. So > you're not special, sorry. (Neither am I.) > > Reassigning to ftp.debian.org again, due to the fact that they are the ones > who decide what's acceptable to redistribute in Debian and what's not. You > are of course free to voice your opinions, but please respect the maintainer > and FTP masters on this matter. Thanks. > > > For the record : > [... links snipped ...] > > So? Reinhard told people to wait. One major reason of this are vacations > of involved people. Still, ftp.debian.org seems to be the right place for > this to get resolved.
And here is my answer. I'm not sure I get the point of yours "for the
record" either, but the delay is easily explained. Rehinard pinged me
(as DPL) about this issue shortly after DebConf10, as it was already
clearly back then that the underlying issue is a conflict between the
ffmpeg maintenance team and you. The recent exchanges on this bug log
seem to confirm that the analysis was right. I told Rehinard that I
would have looked into it, but I've been pretty damn busy---vacation
included---until a few days ago.
In the meantime, Philipp Kern has basically already expressed what I
wanted to say and do here. Let me just recap.
The final word of the severity of a bug regarding a specific package is
up to the package maintainer first and to the release team next. Like
others, I do consider your ping-pong with this bug log inappropriate.
More generally, I fail to understand what you're trying to do here. An
archive wide policy decision for codec related packages is not a matter
to be decided in a bug report against ffmpeg. Nor TTBOMK such a policy
*exists* at all. The authority for deciding what's acceptable to
redistribute in Debian is ftp-master and the corresponding
pseudo-package for asking about archive wide decisions is
ftp.d.o. Therefore your bug report belongs there.
As a personal suggestion, I believe you really want this bug to be
merged as Rehinard initially set it, since the bug log this one was
initially merged with is the place where what you're looking for will be
discussed. YMMV, of course.
On a different post you wrote:
> No Tartler changed the bug severity 4 weeks after I've filed this
> bug report. If he disagree, the severity should be changed immediately.
As explained above, you can put that to my account, it took me time to
get back to this. I apologize for the delay.
> No these codecs are disallowed in Debian till now. Again, nothing has
> changed in Debian or in these codecs licence to make these codecs free.
This is an entirely different, and new to me, matter. If the code in
question is really non free, then Reihnard patch in last changelog
doesn't change anything about that, as the source package has been left
untouched (i.e. this bug could have been filed years ago). If you've
evidence of non-free-ness, please file a separate severity serious bug
report, with an argument other than "code has been enabled" as source
packages are required to be DFSG-free as well.
> Your are simply removing a RC bug for the squeeze release.
This is just mean. Philipp has only commented about the appropriateness
of your bug report and bug log actions, as I did above. I'm more than
sure he didn't do that "just to get the RC bug count down". I also
believe that his hard and thankless work as a Release Team member
deserves a bit more respect than that.
> If ffmpeg is released with these codecs in squeeze somebody should
> endorse the responsibility. Tartler to have enabled these codecs and
> you to have reassigned this bug.
I'm not sure what is the goal of making such a list, but feel free to
add me to it: hadn't Philipp done the reassign, I would have done it
myself.
Cheers.
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