Le lundi 17 août 2009 à 15:27 +0930, Ron a écrit : > > So that’s it? You’re breaking other packages just to annoy people? > > If adopting abandoned packages on zero notice and trying to fix them up > annoys people, then sure. But you probably shouldn't rule out that I'm > just a pawn in an elaborate conspiracy, carefully tailored to maximise > annoyance to you.
A conspiracy starts when there are several people, apparently you did this alone. > When that gets boring, you might like to have a look at the state of > some of the packages that got you so easily annoyed, and redirect your > bile in a more productive fashion. > > Disregarding those that were already scheduled for binNMUs, here's a > quick sampling of what we're facing, in no particular order: [snip list of bugs] This is absolutely irrelevant. You have broken all reverse dependencies using libtool; whether they are correctly maintained or not. It’s ok to fuck up sometimes, but when this happens, you fix your mess instead of leaving other maintainers fix it on your place. > I can't speak for you, but it sure annoys the hell out of me to have > these things rotting unattended to. If you want to just hold your > nose and walk past them quickly, that's your choice, but don't accuse > me of being malintentioned by wanted them to be discovered and wanting > to see something done to fix that. If you are annoyed by unmaintained packages – and so am I – there are procedures for that. Report MIA maintainers, ask for packages to be orphaned or removed from the archive. Breaking them is not the way to go. > I'm certainly not going to adopt them all, and frankly, yeah I _don't_ > give a shit about most of them. But if nobody else does either, then > we should know that and remove them from the list of release candidates > for squeeze. Pretending they are ok because you depend on them but > don't actually use them or know how broken or neglected they are is > simply NOT HELPFUL. Oh don’t worry; those which matter will be fixed. But they will be fixed at the price of a skilled person doing this instead of something more useful for the Project. > But that doesn't change the facts on the ground, or excuse that your > first impulse was to be an ass about it. If you want my respect, and > concern for your problems, then help fix the real problems in these libs, > and don't just fire cheap shots at the messenger who _is_ spending more > of their volunteer time trying to improve the situation. Oh, you’re really trying to improve it? Then why didn’t you provide this list yourself, and earlier? -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in `- future understand things” -- Jörg Schilling
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