reopen 476075 clone 476075 -1 severity 476075 wishlist retitle 476075 Simulated message should simulate user prompt. (-s) retitle -1 Rationale for each package removed needs to be accessible thanks
Hi, Now that I tested "sudo apt-get -s remove '^ope*'" and , "sudo apt-get remove '^ope*'" I have clearer idea what made the original bug reporter confused. There are essentially 2 resolvable wishlist bugs: 1. Simulated message should simulate user prompt. (-s) (wishlist) 2. Rationale for each package removed needs to be accessible. (wishlist) With following description, I hope this bug report is useful to the maintainer. === General === I know problem starts that the output message is long. This is clearly a part of the reason people get upset about apt-get. Long list of packages before "Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them." are one good example which confuses people. But these packages are not removed unless user execute 'apt-get autoremove' by themselves. But let's not worry about this since these is no simple fix to it. === The 1st issue === The simulated removal happens without displaying normal output of: Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y I guess this is because it internally use APT::Get::Assume-Yes=true despite user setting. What should happen is: * If it really "APT::Get::Assume-Yes" is set to true, current simulated output is fine. (No prompt.) * If it is temporary set "APT::Get::Assume-Yes" is set to true for simulated output, it should display as:. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y (simulated) This way, user knows they have chance to stop command in normal mode. === The 2nd issue === Even though I checked long list of output, I only see asell removed in REMOVED list. All the long message have no reference to it. Thus I do not have easy way to identify why particular package is removed under apt-get, I do not have good assessment of situation. So this is another wishlist. "Please provide method to identify why one program is removed for remove operation." === Extra Notes == Since I can not identify why aspell was chosen by casual inspection. This is not good enough information for maintainer to look for bug. I think we should treat this dependency resolving as not a bug until we clearly find problem. I am not even sure aptitude autoinstall status is synched with general apt. Some clean documentation will be nice. === My check on dependency === ope* matched openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us and others. dictionaries-common was installed by those matched but now they are all removed. === Test result without -s === [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get remove '^ope*' Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Note, selecting openoffice.org2-officebean for regex '^ope*' Note, selecting openoffice.org-officebean instead of openoffice.org2-officebean ... [snip] Note, selecting openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us for regex '^ope*' ... [snip] Note, selecting opensched for regex '^ope*' The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: sg3-utils sane-utils libdevel-symdump-perl libadns1-bin tesseract-ocr libnet-ssleay-perl tasksel-data dvidvi aptitude-doc-en automake1.9 bochsbios libauthen-sasl-perl libgcj8-1 libstdc++6-4.1-dev libgphoto2-port0 xsane gcj-4.2-base gnome-games clamav libgpod-common cupsddk libossp-uuid-perl g++-4.1 libsane moinmoin-common libhyphen0 unzoo bsh-gcj libparse-debianchangelog-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl texlive-extra-utils at strace guile-1.8-libs aptitude autoconf ttf-opensymbol wireshark-common libgcj8-jar libsgutils1 bochs cdebootstrap clamav-base xsane-common dupload xdialog libclamav3 libfile-desktopentry-perl libgpod3 libfcgi-perl libcwidget3 libdebian-installer-extra4 libterm-size-perl gnome-cards-data gnuchess-book dvi2tty splint-data gnome-games-extra-data python-qt3 bsh libsoap-lite-perl libgmp3c2 python-moinmoin tesseract-ocr-deu python-gtkglext1 python-sip4 libgtkglext1 debian-keyring vgabios libdebian-installer4 tesseract-ocr-eng libfile-basedir-perl python-xml devscripts konwert libtest-pod-perl tesseract-ocr-fra tesseract-ocr-deu-f libieee1284-3 libpod-escapes-perl bochs-wx tesseract-ocr-ita cupsddk-drivers tesseract-ocr-nld os-prober tasksel tesseract-ocr-por bximage tesseract-ocr-spa wireshark libsane-extras clamav-freshclam gnome-games-data libpod-coverage-perl cowdancer equivs pbuilder splint gnuchess libadns1 konwert-filters lintian libio-socket-ssl-perl libossp-uuid15 libgcj8-1-awt libjline-java lacheck libpod-simple-perl libparse-debcontrol-perl hplip-data libgphoto2-2 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: aspell aspell-en ca-certificates cupsys cupsys-driver-gutenprint dblatex dictionaries-common docbook-dsssl docbook-utils foomatic-db-hpijs hpijs hplip hplip-gui iamerican ispell myspell-en-us openjade openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-base-core openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-evolution openoffice.org-filter-binfilter openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev openoffice.org-gnome openoffice.org-gtk openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-java-common openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-officebean openoffice.org-style-andromeda openoffice.org-style-crystal openoffice.org-style-hicontrast openoffice.org-style-industrial openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us openoffice.org-writer2latex openprinting-ppds opensp openssh-client openssh-server openssl sdm sdm-terminal ssh ssl-cert wamerican 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 49 to remove and 1 not upgraded. After this operation, 351MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort. The prompt message "Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n" did not happen with -s Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
