Hi Stefan, hi all,

Let me first introduce myself, I'm member of the Debian FTP team, and
Christian Hammers assigned this issue to us.

On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 04:13:01PM +0200, Stefan Hinz wrote:
> >On 2005-05-18 Stefan Hinz wrote:
> >>What's not mentioned here is what we *do* allow, and that's what all this
> >>discussion is about: We want the Manual to be shipped with the software
> >>*but not separately*.
>(...)
> I was imprecise. What I meant to say is "not separately" in the sense of 
> putting the Manual somewhere outside the vicinity of the MySQL software. 
> E.g. putting the Manual on a book CD that doesn't contain the MySQL 
> software. Does this sound clearer?

In my opinion yes, as I interpret this as that it's (for example) okay
to ship the manual on Debian's FTP mirror network, all of which are
shipping the MySQL server and client software alongside the manual.
Debian's non-free section already cannot in general be distributed in
any other way than via the Debian FTP-server network, so additional
restrictions do not affect packages in non-free, including the MySQL
manual -- it's the responsability of those redistributors to check the
legal issues of doing so.
 
> >If, on the other hand, you want to have it shipped "in a distribution that
> >also has the mysql server and client binaries in another package" then I 
> >need
> >a short and clear copyright addition that I can put into the copyright file
> >of the package to make the ftp master happy again.
> 
> OK, I've asked our contract dept. for such a paper. Not sure if they get 
> this done by ... By when do you need to have it? And since it's legal 
> stuff, you probably need it on paper; so where should we send that paper to?

You do not need to commit such a statement to dead-tree paper, that's
not needed as far as Debian is concerned. An 'authorative' statement
from the copyright holder by email or via website will do. As far as I'm
concerned, your statement above (the 3+4 lines) suffices -- you're
saying 'We want (...)' mailing from an @mysql.com address.

Christian, Stefan, anyone else: any more questions/remarks?

--Jeroen

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Member of the Debian FTP team


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