On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:48:45PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:25:58 +0200
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > >   3) my filesystem is actually ext3, not ext2, will the missing
> > > > ext3 module cause problems ? 
> > > 
> > > How do your /etc/fstab look like?
> > > 
> > > If / is mounted as ext3 then that module should have been picked
> > > automatically.
> > 
> > /dev/hda4       /                       ext2
> > defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
> > 
> > Huh, indeed, i wonder why it is noted as ext2, i always thought it
> > was an ext3.
> 
> I thought so ;-)
> 
> Experienced the same myself :-P
> 
> 
> > > I believe that for debian-installer use a different template needs
> > > to be written that probes less and instead statically includes a
> > > bunch of modules. I have no experience in this, so if you want to
> > > play with that, Sven, then you are more than welcome.
> > 
> > you mean, how to detect the stuff during d-i run ? I guess a part of
> > that is available, or can easily be made available, from the debconf
> > templates, i will look at this next weekend.
> 
> Maybe that is what I mean.
> 
> What I mean is currently yaird only works from an already running 2.6
> system with udev installed. So how to get there from an earlier system,
> from a system without udev installed, and from scratch.

Why do you need udev ? Is parsing /sys not enough ? I don't really care all
that much about 2.4->2.6 upgrades myself though :)

> > ... Eek, yaird is full
> > of perl :/, i am not perl fluent, will see what i can do, my
> > contribution may possibly be more on a higher level, testing out and
> > proposing a method than implementation.
> 
> Concentrate on the templates. They shouldn't be too perl'ish, I think.

Mmm, i did have a quick look, but didn't find a few good starters :

  1) how to find the root directory.
  2) where the input stuff is handled.
  3) where the disk drivers are parsed.

And what is the difference between Debian.cfg and Debian-initrd.cfg ? 

> > The other issue is that we need a standard tool for creating an
> > initrd for d-i, which i belive could be common to yaird, initramfs
> > and d-i ?
> 
> Could be nice.
> 
> Do you think in the lines of yaird and initramfs coordinating on a set
> of debconf questions like MODULES_REQUIRED, MODULES_TRY,
> ROOT_DEV_DEFAULT?

Yeah, that would be cool too, but i was more of thinking of a sigle tool,
which took a directory and produces either an initramfs or a ext2 or cramfs or
whatever initrd. Which would be fully decoupled from what we put in it.

> Is there some discussion about this already? Maybe even a wiki page
> about it?

Some one the list, but not much i think. The ubuntu guys use initramfs though.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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