Le dimanche 14 août 2011 à 13:15 +0200, Boris Dušek a écrit :
> Hello Jean,

Hi,
> 
> Also I noticed your output module is named espeak-pico-generic, but the 
> official Debian package has this as just pico-generic. You should be using 
> the official pico-generic module for reporting bugs in the future, or 
> updating this bug report - even though I reproduced the problem fine with the 
> original pico-generic, it's better we use consistent modules.

I didn't know this difference. Probably because I introduced this module 
manually before upgrading the system to sid and didn't know the new name and 
the new module (and didn't expected it exists). I use the official module now I 
know it exists.


> W.r.t. upgrade to git, the right thing now is to try debugging the generic 
> module to see where the problem is and then fix it, instead of just upgrading 
> to git. Below are my thoughts about packaging current upstream git in Debian:

ok perfect. That's right for me upgrading is easier because I don't know to do 
better than packaging, I don't know programming. But with your help... every 
debug is possible. :)

> First if there will be upstream's git packaged for Debian, I would definitely 
> put it into experimental, not unstable, especially for the reason that I have 
> no experience about how stable and usable the current git is, and also have 
> no way to tell whether there will be any developments in the git version, 
> which would be good for providing subsequent updated versions of the package 
> in the future. I have no information about upcoming upstream release, the 
> better place to ask would be the speech-dispatcher mailing list.

ok.

> Note that if this was about packaging an upstream beta into experimental or 
> even unstable, it would be much more OK for me to package it.

You're right. I don't know what does upstream too with speech-dispatcher and 
releases. Of course if we can debug current release, it's better.

> Also providing libao is not a valid reason, since libao output is already 
> enabled in unstable (0.7.1-4) and testing (0.7.1-6).

Ok I understand.

> If you feel adventurous and really want to try out speech-dispatcher from 
> git, there is current speech-dispatcher git packaged (including native pico 
> module) for Ubuntu using automated daily build system - it's in the 
> ppa:dusek/spd-daily PPA. So you might try installing that directly with dpkg 
> or somehow with apt (I haven't tried), hopefully the Ubuntu package will be 
> usable in Debian. You also need to install libdotconf1.0 from that repository 
> first. Please let me (and/or the debian-accessibility list) know about your 
> results if you try it.

Ok I'll try someday when I have time. If we fix the most important bugs in 
current release, I prefer helping this instead of adventures. Because I've 
other hard adventures with orca, gnome, etc. in sid. :)

> But in general, the preferred approach by me to handling bugs is to fix 
> problem in current release than upgrading to git.

Great, I can help for such approach by my tests.

> If you want to discuss upgrade to git further, please open a new bug, it 
> really would confuse communication in this bug which is really about the 
> specific problem of generic module not working, and there might be other 
> reasons, apart from native pico module, that you or others might mention why 
> upgrading to git is a good thing. You can always mention that other bug 
> number in this bug.

Ok right. When I wrote things were not clear in my mind, due to the thread 
about libao on debian-a11y ml.

I guess with:
SPEECHD_ADDRESS=unix_socket:/var/run/speech-dispatcher/speechd.sock
spd-say

you also experience the bug. Here the result is similar. I can try
tracking logs if you need.

Thanks for your answer,

Regards,

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