reassign 631573 plasma-widgets-workspace thanks On sam., 2011-06-25 at 18:26 +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On Saturday 25 June 2011 18:02:29 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > Then one solution is to fix plasma-widget-workspace to work under Xfce. > > I assume that means not using xfdesktop4 and running the whole plasmoids > > stuff but Sune would know better than me. > > It would require runnig a Plasma workspace (desktop or netbook shell)
Ok, so that's a solution. > > > I don't know anything about KDE dependencies but I'd find that weird to > > have a hard dependency on a notification daemon. > > It is basically built in (thru plugins) to the workspace. And? > > > xfce4-notifyd provides/conflicts with notification-daemon package > > because they both > > ship /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service. > > Is there a reason why plasma-widgets-workspace does it? > > plasma-widgets-workspace contains the stuff that make a plasma shell > implement > the org.freedesktop.Notifications interface. Well, that's not the (only) reason why xfce4-notifyd does it. The first reason is the dbus service. If you think a virtual package is needed (a “real” virtual) maybe you should ask for it, but adding a provides without shipping the actual dbus service looks to me like an abuse. > > Some packages depends or recommends 'notification-daemon' because they > require > or can use that dbus interface. Which is not provided by plasma-widgets-workspace afaict. > > Currently it is provided by > notify-osd > plasma-widgets-workspace > xfce4-notifyd > > and the following packages has a 'install by default' relationship with > notification-daemon: > $ grep-dctrl -FDepends -FRecommends notification-daemon -sPackage > /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_*i386*Packages > Package: blueman > Package: claws-mail-multi-notifier > Package: deluge-gtk > Package: evolution-plugins > Package: gajim > Package: gnome-power-manager > Package: guake > Package: gufw > Package: libdesktop-notify-perl > Package: libnotify1 > Package: listen > Package: mail-notification > Package: network-manager-gnome > Package: libnotify0.4-cil > Package: prelude-notify > Package: quodlibet-plugins > Package: rhythmbox > Package: service-discovery-applet > Package: update-notifier > Package: wammu > Package: xfce4-goodies > > and I can't see why most of these packages should pull in notify-osd or xfce4- > notifyd when run by users of one of the KDE Workspaces Because notification-daemon is more about the dbus service than something else. At least that's how I interpreted it when I added the conflicts/replaces on xfce4-notifyd. > > I'm not sure of the good way out of this, but I really think that the full > xfce stack sholud be coinstallable with the default stack by KDE, without > pulling in eachothers components. Well, xfce4-notifyd conflict is against the *real* notification-daemon package. Not against plasma-widgets-workspace, and indeed they might be co-installable. But you get it because of the provides, that's all. So I'm reassigning because of that. Regards, -- Yves-Alexis
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