schrieb Sandro Tosi am 2011-05-23 19:49: >> When configuring, reportbug suggests to use a local MTA instead of assuming >> no MTA is configured. This is even true for the "novice" part. > > Nope, we intentionally ask for a MTA.
Asking for a MTA is good, but assuming it is configured is not so good. When runnung "reportbug reportbug" following message is displayed: > EXIM IS CONFIGURED FOR LOCAL DELIVERY: In Debian 4.0 (etch) and later, > exim4 is configured by default to only deliver email to addresses > on your system. YOUR BUG REPORTS WILL NOT ARRIVE AT THE BUG > TRACKING SYSTEM UNLESS YOU FOLLOW ONE OF THE FOLLOWING STEPS: > > - Reconfigure exim (using 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow exim4') to send > mail to the Internet directly or via a smarthost. > > - Configure reportbug to deliver mail to your ISP's smarthost or > reportbug.debian.org directly (using 'reportbug --configure'). > > - Alternatively, see /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.Users for > instructions on how to use GMail's SMTP server to submit reports. This is the missing information when _configuring_ reportbug. That's why I think it's better not to assume a configured MTA, because in a standard installation exim is MTA and is unconfigured. A non-expert user - which should be the assumption for most Debian users - will get a non-working reportbug, try reporting a bug and after failing will not report a second bug... >> Interrestingly reportbug assumes no special configuration for fetching bug >> reports. > > because it's plain HTTP, and it it's not possible to fetch bugs, they > won't be shown, while if you don't have a MTA/someway-to-send-an-email > your bugreport is lost. I assume the later to be the bigger problem: A duplicated bug report is better than a missing bug report. >> The question is: >> Do you have a "mail transport agent" (MTA) like Exim, Postfix or SSMTP >> configured on this computer to send mail to the Internet? [Y|n|q|?]? >> >> This should default to No. > > nope. Can you give a reason for your "nope", please. >> Consequently the next question should be formulated towards not knowing the >> SMTP host, rather to present the fallback presented at the end of the text. > > if you don't enter anything, reportbug will end up using > reportbug.debian.org on port 587, which we were asked to not default > to. It will fail before that point, because it assumes a configured MTA. > So we're simply trying "hard" to configure reportbug to use some > other service and rely on reportbug.d.o only as last resort. That's great, but I see a pitfall in that path. > That's also explained in the documentation: > /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.Users.gz §reportbug.debian.org SMTP > Host Service Usage Policy As said before, that document is not show while configuring, but when reporting bugs against bugreport. Seems not very efficient to me, sorry. Regards Patrick -- Patrick Strasser <patrick dot strasser at tugraz dot at> Business Development des Zentralen Informatikdienstes (ZID) Technische Universität Graz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
